Nextracker, a leader in solar tracker solutions, has reported a strong start to fiscal year 2025 with a 50% year-over-year revenue growth and a record adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter. The company's recent acquisitions of Ojjo and Solar Pile International aim to enhance its geotechnical capabilities, while its commitment to domestic manufacturing in the U.S. is underscored by the planned delivery of a product with 100% domestic content in early 2025. Nextracker's backlog is solid, with 80% expected to be fulfilled over the next eight quarters, and the company is optimistic about the role of AgriPV and grid-enhancing technologies in the renewable energy sector.
Key Takeaways
- Nextracker's revenue grew by 50% year-over-year in Q1.
- Record adjusted EBITDA achieved in the same period.
- Acquisitions of Ojjo and Solar Pile International to broaden geotechnical solutions.
- Orders for solar tracker solutions with 100% U.S. domestic content are being taken.
- A strong backlog with 80% expected to be fulfilled over the next eight quarters.
- The company is optimistic about the potential of AgriPV and grid-enhancing technologies.
- Nextracker is responding to supply chain cost inflation with a hybrid strategy and design innovations.
Company Outlook
- Expects a strong year with a balanced international business mix.
- Anticipates growth regardless of U.S. election outcomes.
- Solar recognized as the number one source of new power generation.
Bearish Highlights
- Acknowledges lengthening project cycles.
- Supply chain cost inflation, particularly in logistics and steel, is a concern.
Bullish Highlights
- Acquisitions and domestic manufacturing expected to drive future growth.
- The company is excited about the prospects of AgriPV.
- Solar is seen as a bipartisan industry with consistent demand.
Misses
- No specific financial misses were discussed in the summary provided.
Q&A Highlights
- The company has not been significantly affected by tariff exclusion deadlines.
- Nextracker's liquidity positions it well for executing strategic acquisitions.
- The 45x manufacturing credit in the U.S. helps offset higher supply chain costs.
Nextracker (Ticker: N/A), in its first-quarter earnings call, has painted an optimistic picture for its fiscal year 2025, banking on its strategic acquisitions and a robust backlog. The company's focus on domestic content and innovations in AgriPV, coupled with the strategic use of the 45x manufacturing credit, positions it favorably in the face of rising supply chain costs. With a commitment to advancing the clean energy transition, Nextracker is set to play a pivotal role in the renewable energy landscape.
InvestingPro Insights
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- The company boasts a Market Cap of approximately $6.89 billion, indicating a substantial presence in the industry.
- A P/E Ratio of 12.4 suggests that investors have favorable expectations of the company's earnings potential relative to its share price.
- With a Revenue Growth of 31.42% in the last twelve months as of Q4 2024, Nextracker is showing strong growth dynamics, which may be an encouraging sign for potential investors.
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Full transcript - Nextracker (NXT) Q1 2025:
Operator: Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for standing by. My name is Zala, and I will be your conference operator today. Today's call is being recorded. I would like to welcome everyone to Nextracker's First Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Earnings Call. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. At this time for opening remarks, I'd like to pass the call over to Ms. Mary Lai, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mary, you may begin.
Mary Lai: Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Nextracker's first quarter and full fiscal year 2025 earnings call. I'm Mary Lai, Vice President of Investor Relations. I'm joined by Dan Shugar, our CEO and Founder; Howard Wenger, our President; and Chuck Boynton our CFO. We're excited to have launched a new shareholder letter format, along with our press release. On today's call, we will open a brief – with a brief message from Dan and then immediately transition into a Q&A session. As a reminder, there will be a replay of this call posted on the IR website along with our press release and shareholder letter. Today's call contains statements regarding our business, financial performance and operations including our business and our industry that may be considered forward-looking statements and such statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. Those statements are based on current beliefs, assumptions and expectations and speak only as of the current date. For more information on those risks and uncertainties, please review our earnings press release, shareholder letter and our SEC filings including our most recently filed Form 10-K, which are available on our IR website. This information is subject to change and we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, or changes in our expectations. Please note, we will provide GAAP and non-GAAP measures on today's call. The full non-GAAP to GAAP reconciliations can be found in the appendix to the press release, and the shareholder letter, as well as the financial section of the IR website. And now, I will turn the call over to our CEO and Founder. Dan?
Dan Shugar: Thank you, Mary. Welcome to Nextracker's first quarter fiscal 2025 earnings call. I would like to extend a warm welcome to our new Chief Financial Officer, Chuck Boynton, who joined Nextracker several months ago and will be participating in our question-and-answer session today. Our fiscal year is off to a strong start with another quarter of solid execution. Our first quarter had a 50% year-on-year growth in revenue and record adjusted EBITDA. It was our sixth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth duo year-over-year double-digit revenue growth. In Q1, we saw a healthy demand in both the US and international markets. Our backlog increased quarter-over-quarter and is over $4 billion. In the quarter, we also shared new product solutions, such as our agri PV solution and our NX low carbon tracker and celebrated several factory expansions with our manufacturing partners. And today, we announced we are taking orders for solar tractor solutions with 100% U.S. domestic content capability with an expected shift date in early calendar 2025. We are also thrilled to welcome the teams from Ojjo and solar pile International to Nextracker -- we have extensive experience with foundation design, supply chain, installation and the technologies we acquired broadened the geotechnical use cases for solar. We believe there is value to our customers in combining tracker systems and foundations to form an integrated solution. With these 2 acquisitions, we can provide a holistic integrated solution for a broad range of soil conditions for utility-scale projects globally. I'm so proud of our team, fiscal 2025 is off to a great start, and we remain focused on executing our plan. As the world transitions to renewable energy, we are well-positioned with our culture, strategy, team and market positions. This concludes my comments. We now look forward to your questions. Let me pass the call back to the operator.
Operator: We will now begin our question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mark Strouse with the company, JPMorgan (NYSE:JPM), Mark?
Mark Strouse: Yes. Good evening. Thank you very much for taking our questions and I appreciate the new [indiscernible]. Welcome. So I wanted to start with kind of the domestic content. Can you talk about how your customer conversations are shaping up if you're seeing firm orders yet, just kind of talk about maybe the pipeline activity? Are things kind of firing on all cylinders yet are customers kind of waiting -- that language to be finalized? Are they waiting for the election? Just any update there? And then I've got a quick follow-up. Thank you.
Howard Wenger: Hey, Mark. This is Howard Wenger. I'm going to start and then Dan is going to finish. So demand is healthy for trackers and for trackers with domestic content. We'll start there. We have firm orders for domestic content in a wide range of domestic content, typically between 40% all the way up to 100% now we're taking orders, and we actually have an order for 100% domestic content tracker. And customers are not equivocating with respect to placing those orders. They're not waiting for additional guidance. The guidance came out from treasury. It's very clear. It's favorable for trackers and for Nextracker. And we -- as we've discussed previously, stood up over 20 facilities with manufacturing partners to deliver domestic content with an annual capacity of over 30 gigawatts. So we're really in a very good position to deliver. Dan?
Dan Shugar: Mark, thanks for asking about domestic content. Building on Howard's answer, it was very hopeful when treasury came out with the new safe harbor table. Their original rules still can be elected by customers, but what's helpful here is they call out specific components, torque, fasteners, slew drive, [indiscernible] motors, controllers, rails. And if you can build those components to that guideline, then there's an additional credit comes in with the production labor. Customers do value that. We stood up and had these public factory openings at eight factories, including our electronic controller. We have an event in Silicon Valley with a partner. And it's very tangible customers get it, and we're getting great feedback. Thanks, Mark.
Operator: Our next question comes from Philip Shen with the company ROTH Capital Partners. Philip, your line is now open.
Philip Shen: Hey, guys thanks for taking my questions. To what degree are you guys dealing with the Southeast Asia AD/CVD impacts and the potential for that to be slowing the market down. Our work, as you may know, suggest 2025 slowdown. Have you seen some projects push outs? Our checks also suggest that you guys are winning a substantial amount of share as well. So just curious if you're able to offset the challenges with the tariff and maybe some other uncertainty with the share gain? And then from a booking standpoint, do you expect that the strength in the book-to-bill to continue to be above one in the coming quarters? Thanks.
Dan Shugar: Phil, Dan Shugar here. I'll take the first half of your question dealing with the AD/CVD, and Howard will then comment on bookings. We read your reports, which are always great, and your team is very comprehensive. And actually, we tested some of those questions with our commercial team. We would characterize the AD/CVD issues as a secondary headwind. It could be an issue on some projects happening later than the customer would otherwise want them to. We've seen the primary impact of on schedule of projects relates to construction permits or interconnection delays. And our perspective is it is taking longer for projects to be fulfilled in real life due to those factors, secondarily for the projects that we've chatted with customers about AD/CVD issues. And so it is a factor, but we've seen that those other issues be larger factors. Howard, do you want to comment on bookings?
Howard Wenger: Sure. So we had a really strong quarter in execution and delivered $720 million revenue for Q1. And so we're off to a great start, as Dan mentioned in his remarks. And with that, we increased our backlog quarter-over-quarter, and so it continues to be over $4 billion. That gives us a lot of visibility. One of the things we noted in the shareholder letter, which we encourage everybody to read. It's online, gives a lot more detail. One of the things we noted is that 80% of that backlog is expected to be realized over the next eight quarters. And so it gives us a lot of visibility. We did have a strong quarter in bookings once again. And we do not provide guidance on bookings and backlog. But the color is that the market continues to be healthy. And we're getting at least our fair share of the market. Thanks, Phil. Next question, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Brian Lee with the company, Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS). Brian, your line is now open.
Q – Brian Lee: Hi, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Kudos on the -- start to the year. I guess in that context, I was just curious, if I look at the guidance for the year, you had a strong start here in fiscal Q1, but the adjusted EBITDA midpoint 22% of sales, that's remaining unchanged. You just did 24 in Q1. So it does imply some moderation through the year. Can you kind of speak to what's driving that? Is it price? Is it mix? Is it maybe some conservatism you're baking in? Just curious as to what's driving that cadence? And then in the shareholder letter, which is great, I think, Dan, you mentioned the grid-enhancing technologies, which I know is getting a lot more focused. Is there an opportunity for you guys to directly participate in that? Is that part of your sort of M&A wheel as, if at all, I just would be curious if that's something you can help the industry out with directly. Thanks, guys.
Chuck Boynton: Great. I'll take the first part and Dan or Howard can take a second. Brian, good to hear from you. So as we look at the strong Q1, really, really strong, both gross margin and EBITDA margin, and we're proud of those results. As you look out to the back half of the year, there's going to be a lot more international mix. Our expectation is -- and again, it's hard to look at it one quarter because we look at this on an annual basis or even a multiyear basis. But we look at the year, and we expect to see stronger revenue contribution from our international markets. And as you know, the margin profile in the US is really, really strong. And so overall, we're off to a great start. We do see the timing things move in, they move out in Q1 really was a real tailwind for us, and we expect a strong year, but it's going to be a bit more balanced with our international mix. In the shareholder letter, we outlined our expectation of approximately two-thirds US, one-third North -- International. And in Q1, it was more like 71, 29. Thank you, Brian.
Dan Shugar: Okay. Brian, Thanks for the question about the grid enhancing technologies. So when we look at such a strong percentage of the interconnection cubing, solar and solar plus storage. We've covered on previous calls, over 7,000 projects have applied to the interconnector to the grid. 2,000 gigawatts much more than the interconnected of the entire US grid of that, 80% of the queue being dominated by solar and solar plus storage. The biggest single issue governing those projects is connection with the grid. And so if you look historically, it takes a long time to build a transmission line. I started my career on an electrical engineer as a transmission planner working for Pacific Gas and Electric company in a very distant past in the 1980s. But it's a big deal to build a new line. You need to get rights away, there's imminent domain, folks don't like to see long transmission lines built. There are 3 grid-enhancing technologies that have become commercialized over the years that can -- you can use the existing lines or the existing corridors of transmission, often with the same transmission towers to get vastly more power transmitted in the same corridor. And those relate to using dynamic thermal rating where you put a device on the line to actually measure the temperature of the line in real time. If the wind is blowing perpendicular across the line, the lines coolers can transmit vastly more power on that line. There's new conductors where you can take the same power and just put a new wire on the line that's the same dynameter and get 50% to 100% more power on the same corridor. The U.S. has lagged international adoption of these technologies. We've seen India and Europe really taking off on these technologies. We think there's a tremendous opportunity. Recently, I spoke at a major conference I was there with some U.S. utility executives were engaged. There's a tremendous push on this from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, the U.S. Department of Energy. We're seeing some utility commissions pushing on it some leading utilities starting to lean in and do this work. And we think it's right for the rate payer and it definitely can help really accelerate renewables. We featured all this in our shareholder letter because it's something that has been sort of not focused on, but in the renewable industry, we think it's very important, and it could provide a big part of the solution to getting these projects connected quicker. Thanks for your question, Brian. Next question please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Vikram Bagri with the company Citi. Vikram, your line is now open.
Vikram Bagri: Good afternoon everyone. I wanted to talk about the acquisitions that you guys did. You obviously have a much stronger footing with these two acquisitions, Solar Pile Ojjo in the space. I was wondering what's the attach rate of these two companies combined with your systems? Where do you see that attach rate going forward? And if you can share the philosophy around acquisitions also, the later stage of the acquisitions will be accretive over time. I was wondering like how much time and what do you think is the acquisition multiple over that time period once the full potential of these acquisitions were shown in your financials? And then I had one housekeeping question. The letter mention gross margin was impacted by higher costs, I imagine for supply chain costs, if you can quantify that, too? Thank you.
Dan Shugar: Thank you, Vikram. We're very excited about the acquisitions of Ojjo and Solar Pile International because they increased the geotechnical and difficult soil areas where solar can be practical to be installed. And we're seeing an increase in the prevalence of difficult sites. For these Ojjo has very unique means and methods and intellectual property and machines to address hard rock type applications. Solar Pile International is more on the softer soils and the froth tees to freezing and -- type places, et cetera. As Solar has proliferated from California in the Southwest to other areas in the U.S. and overseas other places, we've seen a higher percentage of these types of difficult soil conditions and we've heard from our customers the same thing. Now, we're not speaking to attach rate. But what I can share is both of these technologies are fairly early in the adoption curve for these -- in the market. The next tracker, when we first saw the OjO Technology years ago, we did lean in. We supported them. We became the first UL-certified tracker of the OjO Foundation technology. We participated in some of their early projects. And what I will say is, Howard and I sat down with a number of customers. There was a lot of excitement about the combination. OjO had fantastic technology. The company was not well capitalized. They saw Nextracker being able to significantly support the company and the comfort factor of customers was a lot stronger. But with both OjO and SorPile International, we had really vetted, validated these technologies, both in our test facilities that we have joining our headquarters in other locations as well as with full-scale projects with customers out in the real world. And so we are very confident about the ability of these technologies to perform and to be able to expand the range of where solar makes sense. Chuck, can you handle the next question, please.
Chuck Boynton: Yes. Vikram, on the cost side for supply chain, the backdrop is that the revenue that we recognized in Q1 was booked many, many quarters ago in some cases. These are long projects generally. And the cost that you've seen in transport freight, logistics, containers, has gone up in the last three quarters. Suez Canal creates an issue where shipping rates went up, fast costs have gone up. We contemplate and show the cost of steel. And generally, that is kind of hedged with our customers. But a lot of the supply chain costs can be variable. And so this quarter as opposed to last quarter, there was a slight increase in costs. Thank you. Next question please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Praneeth Satish with the company, Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC). Praneeth, your line is open.
Praneeth Satish: Thanks. Let me just say on a big fan of this new format in the expanded Q&A. So anyway, my question, I guess I just wanted to clarify one thing on your backlog. You mentioned that approximately 80% of the backlog will be recognized over the next eight quarters. Is that a shift at all from the prior commentary where I think you said the backlog will be realized within eight quarters as some of the deals got elongated at all? And then how long will it take to realize that remaining 20%?
Howard Wenger: Thanks for the question, Praneeth. This is Howard Wenger. It is a bit of a shift, honestly. The project life cycles are getting a little bit longer. Dan mentioned that permitting and interconnection are now the drivers for the long pole on the tent or getting projects perfected that has -- is taking more time than it did two years ago, three years ago. And so in addition to things like module availability, which is a secondary or maybe an tertiary issue, project cycles are moving somewhat to the right. The flip side is that, we're getting even more visibility, longer-term visibility, which is good for the company, those -- that backlog is still solid. Projects are not dropping out. In fact, we did a review of our projects internally. We had literally one project drop out in the last 12 months. So it's a very, very solid backlog. And of course, we talked about the -- we have a high bar for what goes into our backlog. So Yes. project cycles are lengthening to a degree. We're -- we factor that into our outlook and feel really good about it. Chuck, did you have something you want to add?
Chuck Boynton: No, well said, Howard. I think one project is less than 3%. So it's one out of hundreds and hundreds of projects. Yes. Yes. Just for context.
Dan Shugar: Yes, its less than 1%, much less than 1%. Okay. Thank you for the question, Praneeth. Next question, please.
Operator: Absolutely. Our next question comes from Kashy Harrison with the company, Piper Sandler. Kashy, your line is now open.
Kashy Harrison: Good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question. Just a quick one on the guidance. Q1 was quite strong relative to your expectations, but I think the mid-single-digit growth in Q2 implies a sequential decline. And I was just wondering if you could speak to the driver of the sequential decline into 2Q, whether it's conservatism or if there's something else going on there? Thank you.
Dan Shugar: Yeah, Kashy, I'd say, first and foremost, is we're a customer-driven company. We want to deliver for our customer schedules. They have a lot of scheduled deliveries they wanted in Q1 and deals got pulled into Q1. And that's the real driver. We're not pushing to drive an outcome with our customers. We're listening to them and driving to what our customers want. And that's why you can't just look at one quarter. Q1 was a fantastic quarter. Q2, we're guiding mid-single-digit growth year-over-year. We still see growth, but it's driven by customer schedules, supported by strong backlog and looking at this really on an annual basis. Thank you. Next question.
Operator: Our next question comes from Dimple Gosai with the company, Bank of America (NYSE:BAC). Dimple your line is now open.
Dimple Gosai: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for taking the time. Can you talk a little bit about these domestic ad bonuses. How do I think about that in terms of factoring it into your pricing strategy? Does it from a pricing power perspective, sharing benefits, can you speak a little bit more on that?
Howard Wenger: This is Howard Wenger. It's a factor in the US. And of course, that's two-thirds of our business. It's the most attractive market in the world for Nextracker from a pricing and margin perspective and the strength of our relationships and the size of the market, it's a factor having domestic content. And we made the decision actually during the pandemic when we -- there are all those delays in logistics, steel costs going up overseas, we made the decision to re-shore, onshore manufacturing turn out to be a good decision because Ira came along, and we accelerated this transition to now having over 20 factories. And so we believe we are in a very good position. We think we're differentially able to offer high levels of domestic content, and we're proud to be the first company to be able to deliver in early 2025, 100% domestic content product. Appreciate the question. Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jordan Levy with the company, Truist. Jordan, Your line is open.
Jordan Levy: Afternoon. I appreciate all the commentary. I know you've done work in the AgriPV space before, and I appreciate everything you put in the shareholder letter about that its specific products set. I wanted to get a sense of how you're thinking about the size and market opportunity there and the value you can bring?
Daniel Shugar: Hey, Jordan, thanks for that. We've been passionate about AgriPV since founding the company actually at our center of solar excellence in Fremont, which you visited once. So thank you for that. You saw at that time, we've been growing crops amidst the solar panel there. And I think the amount of uptake of AgriPV is going to be very market specific. Some markets, it could be a negligible percent in some markets, it could be a dominant percent. The -- one of our customer projects, the MAM solar project, which is -- was developed by Doral, it's in Indiana. One, the -- there was a conference last month, they won the AgriPV Project of the Year. On that particular project, it's a combination of ranching and agriculture. They have, for example, 1,500 sheet at that project doing vegetation management, and they are commencing a program to grow produce there with local farmers. The -- what we've seen is there can be -- depending on where you are much greater community acceptance, and it can provide a dual income stream to existing community that might be involved in agricultural ranching. And we've developed a number of projects on multiple -- in multiple countries on multiple continents with that. We -- Nextracker has a very robust R&D program in solar. We have -- in addition to our headquarters R&D center, we have a very extensive center of solar pence in Brazil, and we have a extensive AgriPV R&D program that's been conducted there for several years. We're measuring things like yield per square area for different crop types, the amount of radiance, how to optimize the operation of the solar power system in conformance with needs for cross and so forth. So it's early days for AgriPV. We think it's a great use case. And we think our architecture with an impeder grows to be able to navigate through the system without a mechanical impediment, facilitates more adoption in the agri-PV area. So we're excited about the prospects here. And we'll be reporting on it over time as we learn from our customers and introduce new technologies in this area. Next question, please
Operator: Our next question comes from Joseph Osha with the company, Guggenheim Partners. Joseph, your line is now open.
Joseph Osha: Hi, there. Hi, Chuck, congratulations being part of such a great team. I did -- I wanted to -- I guess the question related to what Phil asked. I think we all know that we have this December deadline looming on panels brought in under the tariff exclusion. I'm curious as to whether any of your customers are talking to you about potential complexities related to modules that aren't put in by that December deadline? Thank you.
Dan Shugar: Thanks for your shot up for Chuck, Joe. We're thrilled to have Chuck join our amazing finance and accounting team, which I will say, one, the Adam Smith Awards last quarter as a testament to the amazing work done by our Treasury Department there. Again, on the panel AD/CVD situation and this end of year deadline, we have spoken to customers. We engaged our commercial team in preparation for this investor call. We've just seen that as a secondary factor where that's impacted that our customers are concerned about or talking to us about. The more the larger factors have been construction permitting and electrical interconnection. So those -- we just haven't seen that be a primary factor. It's also, I will say, very gratifying to see the ramping of quite a few solar panel manufacturing operations in the United States with both legacy producers in the U.S. and new producers. So -- and we encourage more of that. And we're doing everything we can to help them as a validate product on trackers and things like that. Thank you, Joe. Next question, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jon Windham with the company, UBS. Jon, your line is now open.
Jon Windham: Perfect. I'll reiterate. I like the format and the extra time for questions. My question would be this on the two acquisitions, the strategic rationale makes sense. Why now would be my question? I can't help but notice that the total acquisition spend lines almost perfectly with the cumulative 45X tax credit that you received to-date. Should we view it that way that the 45X tax credits have given you a little bit of dry powder? Thanks for taking the questions.
Dan Shugar: Yes. So the rationale, look, we went public 1.5 years ago and we were -- we completed our spinout just a few quarters 1.5 quarters ago. We have -- our liquidity has -- is in a growing and strong place. We mentioned in the shareholder letter we upsized our revolver now. And so we have also the ability to execute those strategic acquisitions. I will say, we're very disciplined. We're very diligent. We approach things from a customer value from an engineering standpoint. We want to see things tested in the field. We have a long history with both Ojjo and with solar panel International. And in the case of those 2 technologies, we've just seen an increased prevalence of these very difficult geotechnical site conditions. These 2 technologies offer real value to customers to lower cost to have less uncertainty on the project. In the case of also the Ojjo technology, it's light on land, meaning that in some of the areas where solar is getting deployed, there's concern around vehicular traffic on the site, both disturbance to sites that have -- there's concern about the environmental aspects of the site. So if you have -- with the Ojjo technology, one, half of a machine can do the job that 2 to 3 legacy type machines would do. And so for all these reasons, there's a market need. We validated it. We're in a position where we can actually transact at value to customers. So that was -- those were the factors that build on our strategic rationale. John, thank you. Next question please?
Operator: Our next question comes from Dylan Nassano with the company, Wolfe Research. Dylan, your line is now open.
Dylan Nassano: Hey good afternoon. So I know you guys have shared your views in the past on just IRA risks and election risks. But just curious in your conversations with your customers, specifically, how do they view the election risk? And is there any way that it would impact their time lines or is the weight certainty? Thank you.
Howard Wenger: This is Howard Wenger. This -- of course, you're going to get some differences in views. But I would say the majority is a shared view that solar is bipartisan, that from a manufacturing and jobs perspective, where the projects are going, where the manufacturing is taking place is predominantly for majority in the red, let's so-called red states, Republican control states. And so it actually benefits both parties. We, as a company, have done well in all administrations, we did well in the Obama administration, the Trump administration previously. So what -- and so there's the fundamental belief because it's reality that solar is the lowest cost form of energy on the planet. And that's going to be the driver in addition to it being clean power, which if you look at the demand that's increasing the electric demand that's increased in the US, it's being driven very much by server farms that are supporting AI, data centers, electric vehicles. And so it's part of the electric and clean power revolution that's taking place in the United States, which is needed and is a fundamental premise and underpinning for the inflation Reduction Act. And so Dan mentioned that tax credits, and particularly, the 30% ITC is the fundamental pillar of Inflation Reduction Act. I mean -- and tax credits historically have not been repealed. In fact, that would be unprecedented. So the vast majority from a customer perspective, they're continuing to develop their pipelines. They're continuing to invest millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. You're seeing more money actually going into development and power plant ownership. And so as we mentioned before, the demand for our products is still very healthy in the US even with the election upcoming. Appreciate. Appreciate the question. Next question, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Maheep Mandloi with Mizuho. Maheep, your line is now open.
Maheep Mandloi: Hey, thanks for the questions. And apologize as some background here coming. And just on the Ojjo and the tracker condition acquisitions. Could you talk about like the market share over there, trying to think if there's any anti-trust concerns with that acquisition? And separately, in the prepared remarks other than the kind of talked about other technologies, other great technologies. Is that kind of directing new acquisitions or directive that you would move or any data previously?
Dan Shugar: Thanks for your question, Maheep. With respect to the market share Ojjo and the solar pile international acquisitions in the foundation of market. It's a very, very small percentage, a de minimis percentage in those markets. As we noted in the Ojo press release, we do plan to continue to make that technology available to other trackers that have been qualified to use that technology on a go forward. We think it can help really broaden the range for that solar can be used out in the market. And so we're very excited about that. And I'm sorry, the second half of your question...
Maheep Mandloi: Both of these deals are closed. So they're -- we looked at them and there's no issue there. Thank you.
Dan Shugar: Yes. So thanks for that question. I appreciate it. I'm sorry, next question, operator?
Operator: Our next question is from Sean McLoughlin with the company, HSBC. Sean, your line is now open.
Sean McLoughlin: Thank you. Good afternoon. Appreciate the time to ask questions. I compliment on an advanced storing set of numbers. I had a two-part question, if I may. Firstly, you talked about higher supply chain costs. I mean where is cost inflation concentrated? And how do you think about your ability to pass through the costs? And secondly, how do I square that with price reductions? Is this a temporary adjustment? Are you working with suppliers and customers to factor in gains from tax credits? Is this related to international volumes? Or am I missing something?
Dan Shugar: I appreciate the question. We'll have a two-part. I’ll first take to the supply chain situation and then Howard will speak to the commercial aspects of it. I'd like to, again, go back a little flash back four to five years ago, what happened was we saw in an unprecedented speed, probably since World War II, the biggest disruption in the supply chain. We saw logistics triple in less than two quarters in cost. And we saw steel roughly double at that time period. Nextracker was largely protected then due to our mature sourcing experience with how we think about placing orders in a back-to-back way with customer orders. But really the logistics piece, cause us and most companies really off guard. And so we developed this hybrid strategy for building out significant supply chain within key markets. We speak a lot on these calls about the U.S., but we've done a similar thing in India, where we've built out 10 gigawatts of traffic capacity in India for that market and in other markets around the world, where we can either supply the local market with locally produced materials or we can export or do a hybrid of that. And so this is hard stuff, okay? It was very difficult for us to achieve 100% domestic content in the United States for deliveries that are happening early in the calendar year. But that's what that did was that provided us a natural hedge on logistics, because we also optimize the location of our manufacturing partners with the market as we saw and we set up multiple vendors. So we feel we're in a very strong position on that and to be able to give customers confidence and certainty and not have to go back with changes after contracts are being executed. Howard, can you speak to the commercial aspects of that question, please?
Howard Wenger: Yeah. I just want to add also that when we reference higher supply chain costs, it's -- the 45x manufacturing credit for the U.S. production is intended to put U.S. production more competitive and on par with international imports. That's the purpose of it. So we do have higher costs in the U.S. and the 45xers to offset that. So that's important in the context of that language in the shareholder letter. Chuck did mention that logistics costs, they peaked up some in the quarter. There's quarter-by-quarter variability in some of the supply chain costs. But we work very hard to lock in our supply chain costs with our customers, because we're sharing visibility of their pipeline with our team. And we're able to then forecast and lock in cost. So -- and on a commercial basis, we've proven that overtime, -- we can, through cost reduction efforts, through design efforts, through R&D. We can reduce steel while still providing a high reliability, high quality product that we can stand behind lowering cost, lowering price, increasing TAM and enabling the company to scale and drive costs down and open up the market more for solar to the point now where for the last two or three years, solar's been the number one source of new power generation in the world. So the formula is working. We're part of that as the market leader. We're pleased to celebrate our 9th year of market leadership. And we have time for one more question and I appreciate your question, Sean. One more question, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Sean Milligan with the company Janney. Sean, your line is now open.
Sean Milligan: Thanks, everyone, for taking the question today. I was looking at the backlog commentary, over $4 billion and 80% over eight quarters and kind of thinking that maybe there was a little bit less coverage than I thought previously in the near-term. So I was just curious if you could comment, historically, your expected intra-year book-to-ship, what that maybe looks like? Because it seems like in any given year, you're also like booking, shipping a lot of revenue? And just was trying to get a sense for what that could be?
Dan Shugar: Yeah. As we talked about in previous calls, most of the backlog is in the two to five quarter window and then the remaining above five quarters. We're giving slightly different color where 80% is over the next eight quarters. You can still think of it as a long tail to the backlog. So as you get further out in six, seven, eight, nine, 10 quarters out, it's a much lower percentage. So that should address your question.
Sean Milligan: Yeah. It does help.
Dan Shugar: Okay, great and thank you for that. Really appreciate all the positive feedback on our shareholder letter. Our team worked really hard on this, going to this new format. If you give us more time for questions and provide better resolution, we think, for a focus on understanding our business. We're excited about what's come this year, and we look forward to advancing the clean energy transition with customers and partners. Thank you for joining our call today. Mary?
Mary Lai: Thank you. This concludes our earnings call.
Howard Wenger: Thank you.
Operator: That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and enjoy the rest of your day.
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