Blue Owl Capital Corporation (OBDC) has released its third-quarter financial results for 2024, showcasing a strong performance with a Net Asset Value (NAV) per share of $15.28 and a Return on Equity (ROE) of 12.4%, marking the seventh consecutive quarter of double-digit ROE. The company reported a Net Investment Income (NII) of $0.47 per share and declared a base dividend coverage of 127%, supplemented by an additional dividend of $0.05 per share. Total (EPA:TTEF) portfolio investments stood at $13.4 billion, with outstanding debt at $7.8 billion and total net assets reaching $6 billion. The company also reported spillover income of approximately $0.41 per share.
Key Takeaways
- Blue Owl Capital's Q3 2024 NAV per share is $15.28, with a strong ROE of 12.4%.
- The company recorded a Net Investment Income of $0.47 per share.
- Base Dividend Coverage is at 127%, with a supplemental dividend of $0.05 per share.
- The total portfolio investments are valued at $13.4 billion.
- Blue Owl Capital has made significant platform expansions through strategic acquisitions.
Company Outlook
- Blue Owl Capital expects the base dividend to be consistently covered throughout 2025.
- Modest supplemental dividends are possible, contingent on potential rate decreases.
- A merger with OBDE is anticipated in January 2025.
- Interest coverage ratios are projected to be in the high 1x to low 2x range in the coming year.
- The company expresses confidence in the resilience of its portfolio across different economic conditions.
Bearish Highlights
- The current interest rate environment is shifting, with potential rate cuts on the horizon.
- Mergers and acquisitions (M&A) activity is currently subdued.
- Tight spreads are observed in the private credit market.
Bullish Highlights
- Blue Owl Capital has increased its revolver capacity by approximately 30%, now totaling $2.6 billion.
- Total liquidity is reported at $2.1 billion.
- The company has deployed $1.2 billion in new investment commitments and added 11 new names to its portfolio.
- A significant portion of the portfolio, 76%, is in first lien investments, an increase from the previous year.
Misses
- There were no significant misses reported in the earnings call.
Q&A Highlights
- The company discussed the tight spreads in the private credit market and its non-sponsored lending approach.
- Clarifications were provided on the variability of dividend and fee income.
- Details were shared regarding improvements in interest coverage.
- Strategies for platform expansion were explored.
Blue Owl Capital's financial performance in the third quarter reflects a stable and growing company, as emphasized by CEO Craig Packer and President Logan Nicholson. The company's focus on upper middle market sponsor-backed lending and its position as a lead or co-lead lender on 90% of deals, with administrative agent responsibilities on approximately 65% of investments, underscores its competitive edge. With $128 billion in assets under management in credit and over 120 investment professionals, Blue Owl Capital is well-positioned to navigate the evolving market landscape and continue delivering attractive risk-adjusted returns.
Full transcript - Owl Rock Capital Corp (NYSE:OBDC) Q3 2024:
Conference Operator: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Blue Owl Capital Corporation's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thank you, operator, and welcome to Blue Owl Capital Corporation's 3rd quarter earnings conference call. Yesterday, Blue Owl Capital Corporation issued its earnings release and posted an earnings presentation for the Q3 ended September 30, 2024. These should be reviewed in conjunction with the company's 10 Q filed yesterday with the SEC. All materials referenced on today's call, including the earnings press release, earnings presentation and 10 Q are available on the Investors section of the company's website at blueellcapitalcorporation.com. Joining us on the call today are Craig Packer, Chief Executive Officer Logan Nicholson, President and Jonathan Lam, Chief Financial Officer.
I'd like to remind listeners that remarks made during today's call may contain forward looking statements and are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that are outside of the company's control. Actual results may differ materially from those in forward looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described in OBDC's filings with the SEC. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements. Certain information discussed
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Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: this call and in the Company's earnings materials, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third party sources and has not been independently verified. The company makes no such representations or warranties with respect to this information. With that, I'll turn the call over to Craig Packer, Chief Executive Officer of OBDC.
Craig Packer, Chief Executive Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thanks, Mike. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today. We delivered strong Q3 results, driven by continued portfolio performance and robust investment activity. We achieved ROE for the quarter of 12.4%, our 7th consecutive quarter of double digit ROE and dividend yield, reflecting our attractive asset base and the resilient credit quality of our portfolio. As of quarter end, our net asset value per share was $15.28 just off from historical highs.
The fundamental performance of the portfolio remains strong and our non accrual rate remains well below the industry average. OBDC continues to over earn the base dividend, enabling us to pay $0.05 per share supplemental dividend and Jonathan will share more on our financial performance in a moment. We're very pleased with our results this quarter and we think it's important to put them into context of what we're seeing in the broader markets. Since we spoke to you last quarter, the interest rate outlook has shifted considerably. The market is now recalibrating based on an expectation of additional rate cuts over the remainder of the year as inflation has eased.
When rates increased over 2 years ago, we took decisive action to ensure our shareholders would benefit from expected earnings momentum while maintaining ample cushion on our base dividend. We introduced a variable supplemental dividend framework and modestly increased the base dividend. Both of these initiatives were designed to deliver predictable cash flow to our shareholders. As floating rate investors, we recognize that the elevated rate environment would not last forever and by implementing a programmatic supplemental dividend that allowed OBDC shareholders to benefit from the higher returns associated with the increased rate environment, while providing the predictability of our base dividend. This move has proven beneficial since launching the supplemental dividend structure 2 years ago.
OBDC shareholders have received a total of $0.47 of supplemental dividends per share, reflecting our commitment to ensuring our shareholders benefit from our earnings momentum. In the Q3, OBDC's base dividend coverage was 127%, one of the highest among BDC peers, providing us with ample confidence in our ability to navigate the rate environment ahead. To put this in context, given current market rate expectations, we believe our base dividend will be covered throughout 2025. Depending upon how fast rates decrease, we may continue to generate excess income and pay modest additional supplemental dividends. Turning to the market environment, while M and A activity remains subdued, we continue to find attractive risk adjusted opportunities to deploy capital and stay at our optimal portfolio leverage for enhanced returns.
Even during times of muted industry deal activity, we leverage our differentiated scale and broad origination platform to maintain strong deal flow and selectivity. Our growth as a platform has resulted in a large number of incumbent lending positions. With our $128,000,000,000 of assets under management and credit, we have a deep pool of existing borrowers and sponsor relationships we could draw upon for deal flow even in a period of modest new buyout activity. Across our platform, we are lead or co lead lender on roughly 90% of deals, administrative agent on approximately 65% of our investments and have the ability to commit over $1,000,000,000 to any single investment. This significant presence typically makes us the first call when a new financing for one of our portfolio companies is in the works, driving significant deal flow.
To that end, roughly 2 thirds of our originations this quarter were deployed into our 435 existing borrowers and refinancings or add on acquisitions. We believe this reflects not only the confidence we have in our portfolio companies, but also the trust that private equity sponsors place in us as a preferred financing provider. We also have one of the largest direct lending teams in the industry with over 120 investment professionals, coupled with several complementary credit strategies at Bluel. The scale across both Blueout Capital and our credit platform is one of our most significant competitive advantages that provides us the ability to generate significant deal flow through our sourcing capabilities. This has allowed us to remain highly selective even as we deployed over $9,500,000,000 across the platform this quarter.
In addition, our growing footprint has made Bluel an attractive home for leading asset managers, which has helped drive the recent acquisitions of Adelai Capital Management, which closed in September and the announcement of IPI Partners in October, the global investment manager focused exclusively on data centers. These acquisitions expand our platform into alternative credit, broaden our capabilities and enhance our overall deal flow across the platform, ultimately strengthening our ability to drive originations at the fund level in the coming quarters. Looking ahead, as we think about our investment approach, we remain focused on direct lending to senior secured investments in the upper middle market. We're seeing strong results from our portfolio companies and the number of challenged positions within the portfolio was small. These achievements reflect the durability of our strategy and our continued focus on credit selection and proactive portfolio management, which remains unwavering even as economic conditions shift.
Finally, I want to provide an update on our previously announced merger with OBDE. As we discussed on our last earnings call, we expect this merger will streamline our direct lending platform, enhance our scale with a high quality diversified portfolio that offers significant investment overlap, improve our trading liquidity profile for current and prospective shareholders, increase our access to lower cost sources of debt, and finally drive operational efficiencies and cost savings. We also anticipate that it will drive NII appreciation accretion, excuse me, over both the near and long term with an opportunity for NAV per share accretion. We achieved an important milestone in the merger process in mid October when the joint proxy statement of OBDC and OBDE was declared effective by the SEC. The proxy solicitation process has begun and will conclude at each of our shareholder meetings scheduled for January 8.
Our current expectation is that the transaction will close in January 2025. We encourage all shareholders to review the proxy materials and vote your shares accordingly. As a reminder, the OBDC Board of Directors, myself included, has unanimously recommended shareholders vote in favor of the proposals on the ballot. With that, I'll turn it over to Logan for additional color on portfolio performance.
Logan Nicholson, President, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thanks, Craig. We continue to find attractive opportunities to commit capital in the Q3, driving strong origination activity and solid earnings despite the persistently low M and A deal flow. During the quarter, we deployed approximately $1,200,000,000 in new investment commitments, which was roughly in line with repayments. As Craig mentioned, our scale and incumbency creates an advantage, resulting in the majority of our originations this quarter coming from existing borrowers. We were able to achieve larger allocations in some of the largest, highest quality new borrowers in the market.
And for our refinancing flows, we were actually able to grow our share in many deals across the platform. I would contrast this to the Q1 where we saw elevated second lien repayments that did not present us with a reinvestment opportunity. We added 11 new names into the portfolio and funded Audiotonics, an LBO that Bluehill committed approximately $1,500,000,000 to across our platform. Over 96% of this quarter's origination activity consisted of 1st lien investments as we continue to believe that 1st lien and unitranche loans provide the most attractive relative value in the market today. As a result, our 1st lien investments have grown to 76% of the portfolio from 69% in the prior year.
We believe our long standing and disciplined approach to investing in upper middle market businesses with significant operating histories in non cyclical sectors has resulted in an attractive highly diversified portfolio. Our average investment represents less than 1 half of 1 percent of the portfolio, minimizing our exposure to any single company. The median EBITDA of our portfolio of borrowers is $112,000,000 and weighted average EBITDA is $197,000,000 with an average LTV of 43%. We believe this scale can provide strategic benefits and operational stability as many of our borrowers are market leaders within their sectors. As Craig mentioned, our borrowers are performing well, having navigated the higher rate environment.
Across the portfolio, our average interest coverage improved to around 1.7 times, up from 1.6 times last quarter. This is in line with how we thought about our trough coverage in the prior quarter, and we expect to see the benefits of lower base rates flowing through the portfolio companies over the next quarter. Based on the declining forward rate curve, we should expect to see continued gradual improvement in interest coverage. 1 year from now, we project our average interest coverage ratios will be in the high one times to low two times, assuming these forward rate conditions remain as forecasted and portfolio company performance remains stable. Within our portfolio, the sustained earnings growth of our borrowers continues to be the most significant driver of credit health.
Overall, our borrowers are growing revenues and EBITDA in the mid single digits year over year. We'd note that earnings growth of our borrowers ticked up modestly quarter over quarter as well. Our portfolio companies have the advantages of size, scale and sponsor support, which we believe will continue to serve us well. We remain confident in the resilience of our portfolio across varying economic environments and the changing rate landscape. Our non accrual rate in our debt portfolio remains low at 70 basis points of fair value reflecting the removal of one name from non accrual and no new additions this quarter.
1 of the primary indicators of health of our portfolio is our internal rating system. In the Q3, our investments internally rated 3 to 5 actually declined modestly, which is another encouraging sign of the underlying health and stability of our investments. And finally, the subset of names on our watch list remains steady quarter over quarter and we do not see any material pickup in amendment activity or other signs of stress. I also want to spend a moment on our PIK exposure, an area of heightened focus in the market. As we have said before, over 80% of our PIK income was structured as such at initial underwrite and more than half of our PIK exposure is in the form of 1st lien investments.
In addition, PIK exposure remains stable year over year and quarter over quarter in the portfolio. In fact, these PIK names represent some of our best investments. A recent example in the quarter was our preferred equity investment in Citrix, which was originally underwritten with PIK in 2022, carried PIK interest at inception of S plus 12% and recently had flipped to cash pay. Due to the company's strong performance, Citrix refinanced the preferred equity with senior debt, and we generated an IRR north of 20% and a MOIC of 1.5x. Our portfolio continues to be stable and resilient giving us confidence in our ability to deliver attractive risk adjusted returns for our shareholders.
And now, I'll turn over the call to Jonathan to provide more detail on our Q3 financial results.
Jonathan Lam, Chief Financial Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thank you, Logan. Our financial performance for the Q3 demonstrated the consistency of our earnings despite the changing market environment. We ended the 3rd quarter with total portfolio investments of $13,400,000,000 outstanding debt of $7,800,000,000 and total net assets of $6,000,000,000 Our 3rd quarter NAV per share was $15.28 reflecting the impact of credit related markdowns on a select few investments. We believe our NAV demonstrates the resilience of our portfolio as it remains near our historical highs. Turning to the income statement.
We earned net investment income of $0.47 per share, down $0.01 from the prior quarter, driven by maintaining leverage toward the higher end of our target range and stable repayment related income. Similar to prior quarters, we meaningfully over earned our base dividend, resulting in the Board declaring a $0.05 supplemental dividend for the 3rd quarter, which will be paid on December 13 to shareholders of record on November 29. The Board also declared a 4th quarter base dividend of $0.37 which will be paid on January 15 to shareholders of record as of December 31. As Craig mentioned earlier, we believe OBDC is well positioned for a lower rate environment. OBDC's base dividend is well covered by our earnings with 127 percent dividend coverage.
Further supporting our distributions is our spillover income. We finished the quarter with approximately $0.41 per share of spillover as a result of meaningful over earning of our dividends, which is a strong advantage that provides stability going forward. In terms of our asset sensitivity to lower rates, if rates are cut by an additional 50 basis points and assuming no other changes to our portfolio, we would expect NII to decrease $0.02 per share over the next quarter. Despite these potential headwinds, we feel very comfortable with our base dividend level amid the evolving rate environment and any reductions in rates will take time to impact our earnings. We encourage investors to refer to the interest rate risk section of our 10 Q for additional information on OBDC's asset sensitivity.
Moving to the balance sheet. We continue to optimize and enhance our liability structure to deliver strong performance to shareholders. We finished the 3rd quarter with net leverage of 1.23 times, within our target range of 0.9 times to 1.25 times, based on originations that were generally in line with repayments. During the quarter, we enhanced our liquidity position by increasing our revolver capacity by approximately 30% or $585,000,000 across 6 lenders, bringing OBDC's total revolving facility to $2,600,000,000 This reflects the strong relationships we have built with our bank partners and represents the importance of the Blue Owl platform. As of quarter end, total liquidity stood at $2,100,000,000 well in excess of our unfunded commitments.
Additionally, we believe we can further reduce costs through the synergies and liability optimization resulting from our anticipated merger with OBDE. We remain very pleased with our results and with what we have accomplished with our liability structure. And now I'll hand it back to Craig to provide final thoughts for today's call.
Craig Packer, Chief Executive Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thanks, Jonathan. Since inception, we have delivered strong ROEs and constructed a resilient portfolio with a very low loss ratio of approximately 20 basis points. We believe this performance reflects our commitment to credit quality and a long term approach in managing our credit business and OBBC. We've built our direct lending platform with this long term mindset, ensuring our portfolio and dividend framework will perform well across all interest rate and economic environments. Looking ahead, we are confident that our strong origination capabilities will allow us to maintain a fully invested high quality portfolio.
While lower rates will impact OBDC's earnings, they will also reduce interest expense for our portfolio companies, enhancing their performance and potentially leading to increased M and A activity. New activity has been light in recent quarters with historically tight spreads driven by strong capital inflows into both public debt and private credit funds. This has put pressure on pipelines across the BDC sector, resulting in new joint ventures between direct lenders and established banks as they seek to expand origination efforts. At Bluel, we have not needed to pursue these strategies. As you've heard me say today, our investment team our investment in our team, our scale, our sponsor relationships and our long term investment thesis have carried us through both outsized market activity and more challenged economic cycles.
We believe the current market trends will not persist indefinitely. Eventually, the supply demand imbalance will improve. Lower rates could result in increased deal activity as companies invest more in growth initiatives, potentially spurring a wave of M and A and improving pricing as deal activity increases. In the meantime, while we wait for the market to recalibrate, our portfolio remains healthy, credit quality is strong and we're confident in our ability to continue to deliver attractive returns to our shareholders. We're pleased to be entering this changing macroeconomic environment from a position of strength.
With that, thank you for your time today and we will now open the line for questions.
Conference Operator: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer Our first question is from Brian McKenna with Citizens JMP. Please proceed.
Brian McKenna, Analyst, Citizens JMP: Okay. Great. Good morning, everyone. So just a question to start on yields and spreads for new deals today. The average yield on new commitments totaled sub 10% in the quarter.
I know there's a few different drivers kind of within that. It's also more challenging to predict in the near term. But where do these go from here? Do you think we're close to the bottom in terms of spreads? And then what makes you confident that private credit yields will continue to be in excess of public credit markets?
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Sure. Good morning, Brian. Thanks for the question. Spreads on new deals today are as low as 4.75, some are 500, probably 1 or 2 that are 4.50, but I would say 4.75 is probably the center of gravity for the tight spreads for attractive deals. We're certainly doing deals that are wider than that.
My sense is spreads are trough there based on just activity in the last 3 months or so. I think that's about where it's troughed and we're not seeing things come tighter than that. I don't think there's meaningful risk that it will come tighter than that. So given where SOFR is, that's still, as you noted, still generates a 10 plus percent absolute return, which we think is very attractive. But I do think we're at a cyclical trough and my hope is in the next year or so, if M and A picks up and the public markets cool a bit, the spreads will widen to a more normalized level.
As to your question relative to the public markets, and I think you know this, but maybe some of the listeners don't, public market spreads are significantly tighter than 4.75 over, public market spreads are 300, 3.25 over. And so the private markets continue to offer 100 plus basis point premiums, ignoring the fact that we also get underwriting fees that are not available to the public market investor. So the private markets continue to generate substantially higher returns, differentiated returns versus the public markets. And I'm hopeful that spreads at some point will normalize.
Brian McKenna, Analyst, Citizens JMP: Okay. That's super helpful. And then just for my follow-up, the Blue Owl platform more broadly continues to expand capabilities, including within alternative credit and then in other higher growth areas like infrastructure and data centers. There's clearly going to be quite a bit of capital needs within both of these markets. So what does this ultimately mean for lending opportunities across all your BDCs?
Do you think you'll look to lean in here over time? And then is there any way to frame the yield opportunity here relative to regular way direct lending?
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Sure. As folks know, Blue Isle has done a small number of strategic acquisitions or mergers in the last year or so, as you noted, including a significant expansion into the alternative credit space with our acquisition of Adelaya, our recently announced transaction of a large hyperscale data center business, IPI, our insurance our expansion in the insurance space. I think these are all really terrific opportunities for our direct lending platform and our BDCs. We are not changing the strategy of our BDCs. We're going to continue to be focused on upper middle market sponsor backed lending to recession resistant sectors as we have since inception.
But we are going to now have just a meaningfully larger ecosystem in both the sponsor and non sponsor world in really high quality assets, working with teams that have generated very significant returns to investors in their respective asset classes. Having that all under one roof, one credit platform and one asset manager platform, it's going to significantly expand our deal flow. And I think there will be opportunities, select opportunities where we can invest in scale across the Blue Isle platform that will create select opportunities to put high quality, predictable income generating assets into our BDCs. That's a strength we haven't had before and now we're going to have it. Again, I don't want to give I don't want to create a concern about strategy drift, But I do think that the scale of having $120,000,000,000 credit platform now is going to create just new avenues for deal flow.
Sponsors that might not have thought we had a relevant source of capital will now call us for new deals. Companies that may not have thought of us as a financing source will now be able to call us, founder owned businesses will call us. And those folks don't always necessarily know where their capital needs can best be met on our platform. And so it could just also generate regular way direct lending opportunities as before, but now people are calling us and we can direct it on the right place. Not to mention all the additional underwriting resources we'll have under one roof.
So I'm quite excited about this opportunity.
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Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: terms of the return profile, each of those businesses I mentioned, the insurance business is a little bit different because it's investment grade orientation. But the investment the alternative credit business generates returns really in excess of the direct lending model. In the data center business, returns have been very attractive and more importantly, credit quality, the counterparts they have in that business are extremely high. So it's a huge positive to OBDC shareholders to have this one to one roof and no negatives as far as I can see.
Brian McKenna, Analyst, Citizens JMP: Okay. I'll leave it there. Congrats on another strong quarter.
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thank you.
Conference Operator: Our next question is from Casey Alexander with Compass Point. Please proceed.
Casey Alexander, Analyst, Compass Point: Hi. Good morning, Craig. Thanks for taking my questions. I kind of whiffed on the combination of dividend income and fee income this quarter, and that's on me. But I'm kind of wondering where you feel sort of the correct cadence is in sort of the run rate of the Q2 or the run rate of the Q3, at least for the next couple of quarters until you're able to consummate the merger, then the answer to that question might be different.
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Sure. I'll start it off and say, well, Casey, we would never say that you left. You might have hit one off of that into the stands, but I wouldn't call it a We do recognize that your numbers might have been a bit different than ours. Jonathan, you can add some additional color. I think there were a couple of components maybe in your model that might have been a bit off and other investors may have the same questions.
One is that we do have a really significant amount of dividend income from some of our investments, either in businesses like QueenSpire or senior loan fund, as well as investments in some preferred stocks and the like. In the Q2, approximately that generated about $51,000,000 of income on this quarter, it was down $2,000,000 There's nothing particular there. Most, really all of these, I think, or most of them, most of it, it's not contractually defined income, it's based on the underlying performance of an individual pool of assets or it might be a variable dividend that a particular company declares. And so it will, it can move around quarter to quarter based on what's going on in those underlying assets, a few $1,000,000 positive or negative. Historically, the first half of this year is about $50,000,000 this year $40,000,000 this quarter is $47,000,000 next quarter, we'll just have to see could be upbid.
The other piece, I think in your numbers was some fee income really primarily related to repayments. As folks know, Q2, we had significant really exceptional repayments given the low rate environment, there's a lot of repayments done. And so this quarter, we had some nice fee income generated by repayments, but it wasn't off it was off of that accelerated number in the Q2. And so looking ahead to the Q4, the fee income, excuse me, the dividend income, probably in the same zip code, help pulp a bit higher, The prepayment income, we'll start to see how the quarter ends. It could be in the same zip code, maybe a bit higher, a bit lower.
So I don't know, Jonathan, if anything
Jonathan Lam, Chief Financial Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: I think you hit on everything right there. I don't know if KC that helps you. I think you had really effectively projected an up number relative to the prior quarters. I think hopefully that straightens it out.
Casey Alexander, Analyst, Compass Point: All right. Well, listen, thank you for taking my question. I appreciate the clarity and the only people who don't whiff are people who don't swing. So I'll still take it as a whiff. Thank you.
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: All right. Thanks a lot.
Conference Operator: Our next question is from Mickey Schleien with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed.
Mickey Schleien, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Yes. Good morning, everyone. Craig, I just wanted to touch on the non sponsored market. Everybody's talking about how spreads are so tight in the sponsored market, etcetera. But you do have a non sponsored segment.
I was wondering if you could just review how large that is within your organization? What proportion of your portfolio is non sponsored? And how do the economics compare there?
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Sure. We've done non sponsored deals since inception. That's part of our business plan. Associates is one of our single largest investments. It's not a sponsor owned company.
And so we do them regularly, although we generally strongly prefer sponsor backed companies for the reasons that are obvious, they bring significant capital, governance, resources, and they can, particularly if the business is struggling, they can add all those features. That's typically not the case in a non sponsor deal. We're going to continue to prefer sponsor, but we will do non sponsor selectively for really attractive companies where we get to know the ownership group and the management team extremely well. It probably goes without saying, but all BDCs focus on sponsor business because the velocity of capital and the investment opportunity in the sponsor world is much higher than the non sponsor deal. Sponsors have significant pools of capital and spend every day thinking about ways to deploy that capital and generating lending opportunities for us.
Non sponsored companies can go years without generating any activity. So it's much more idiosyncratic. It's very difficult to invest capital and scale in the non sponsor space. So we seek those opportunities. We make investments.
But I think our bar for non sponsor is just higher given the lack of some of the sponsor oversight. And I think that's true today and this is true as we started the business. In terms of the terms that you can get for non sponsor, it varies based on the credit opportunity. I don't think it's inherently meaningfully wider. I think that on the margin, the sponsors are currently have a deep expertise and work law firms have deep expertise in negotiating.
And so they'll push maybe in a way that a non sponsor might not always have the same goals. A non sponsor company cares an awful lot about who their lender is, because it's typically a founder of business and that relationship is critical for a number of reasons. And so there'll be other goals that may not be the last basis point or the last credit protection, but I don't think you're going to see a dramatically wider spread for non sponsor opportunities. It's not a really different market. And so I think we'll continue to focus on sponsor.
Mickey Schleien, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Okay. I think I understand. Thanks for that explanation. My follow-up question relates to Page 16 of the presentation. I'm just trying to triangulate some math.
In the middle of that, sort of the 2 middle rows where we look at the weighted average interest rate on the new commitments and the weighted average spread. The weighted average interest rate on new commitments dropped by 1.2%, spreads dropped 30 basis points and SOFR dropped 50 basis points. I'm trying to understand the math there. And it may have something to do with my last question, which is, I think if I'm reading it correctly, your allocation to unitranche has declined pretty dramatically the last few quarters. And maybe that's the answer to the question, but I want to understand if there was something else going on there.
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: We're happy to follow-up offline and get really detailed. Obviously, this is just focused on new commitments. So it's a relatively small portfolio, it's about 10% of the portfolio. As we've been talking about, spreads have come down over the last couple of quarters. And so you can see that, I just a minute ago, the question was where a new deal is coming on a spread basis.
And this $5,100,000,000 is not far off from what I said a minute ago $4,75,000,000 So that's just market where the market migrated to in the Q3 and the lower base rate lower weighted average interest on new investment commitments is obviously a combination of the lower spread and lower base rates. To your question on unitranche, no change there. We see the focus on unitranche. Spreads on unitranche were lower than they were. And so as you know, the term unitranche is a bit of a term of art meant to describe a 1st lien term loan through a leverage level, higher than a typical 1st lien term loan.
And so that's where we continue to play and that's where the I think most BDCs continue to play. The spreads on that product are just have just come in a bit. That's certainly where our focus continues to be. And we will also we evaluate there's some reporting we put in our filings of exactly how much unitranche we have and go through a pretty robust process every quarter to look at every loan and determine whether it's still a unitranche as they improve in credit quality. They often graduate to be a 1st lien term loan.
And so quarter to quarter, if you look at that disclosure, that will be not only a function of new deals, but also just how we're freshening up the analysis quarter to quarter. So again, back to your question, what happened in the quarter, new deals coming in, obviously lower spread, base rates coming down, generates lower weighted average rate on new investment commitments of about 10%.
Conference Operator: Our next question is from Maxwell Fisher with Truist Securities. Please proceed.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation0: Hi. Good morning. I'm on for Mark Hughes. The average commitment in new formulary companies was lower than it's been the past several quarters as well as the maturity on those. Any purposeful or strategic shift there or just the specific investments made?
Logan Nicholson, President, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Sure. Thanks for the question. It's Logan. Specific to this quarter, it was mostly relative to us being at our target leverage and so our available capital to invest was simply lower. And so our average investment size was lower accordingly, where in the prior quarter, given what had happened in the Q1 with the 2nd lien repayments that we mentioned, we had more available capital to reinvest and so our bite size was a little bit bigger.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation0: Okay. Thank you. And it looks like OBDE has a less of a priority on common equity investments than OBDC. And I was just wondering how that how the combined company will prioritize these common equity investments?
Jonathan Lam, Chief Financial Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: It's primarily a function of the strategic equity investments that we have, like investments in our senior loan fund, as well as in Wingspire that don't exist in OBDE. So as a combined company, obviously, both companies will have, obviously, all shareholders will have access to that, but you'll see an immediate decline, but it gives you the room to grow those strategic investments over time.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation0: Okay. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Our next question is from Robert Dodd with Raymond (NS:RYMD) James. Please proceed.
: Hi, guys. I also slightly whipped, but I haven't struck out yet. So I'm in the same with Casey there. On the interest coverage, obviously, so up to 1.7, it was 1.6 last quarter. But the I think the bigger part is in the beginning of the year, there were 17% of the of the portfolio excluded from that calculation.
That's now down to 10%. So it's almost been cut in half. So I mean, the share of the portfolio where EBITDA is maybe not applicable is much lower today than it was at the beginning of the year. So can you give us any color on was that a deliberate rotation? Was that performance at the companies?
Or should we expect that to shift further and focus more on cash flow EBITDA as relevant businesses rather than where the portfolio is maybe positioned a year ago?
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Thanks. Well, okay. I don't think there's too much to draw, but I do think there's a positive to draw. I mean, we when there's there are companies getting excluded from the calculation, it's typically because we might have invested in the company at a point in its lifecycle where it's investing in its business and the cash flow is depressed. And so it's due to calculation.
We see this particularly in the software space. Or there's some other structural reason why, from our underwriting standpoint, we don't think it's comparable and would skew the analysis. But our investment approach is pretty clear and simple. We do that and the expectation of those companies will eventually normalize and get to a very normal range of interest coverage. And so I think you're just highlighting, model works, it's working.
Investing in companies, they improved their credit quality over time and they became included in the calculation because their statistics are now not going to skew the results. We're going to continue to make those kinds of investments though. So I don't want to signal it's going to continue to get better because we're going to continue to do deals that where we can get an attractive risk adjusted return, but they may have artificially skewed reported results for a few quarters. I think that's something we do well, it's worked well, we continue to do it. Right now, we're probably a bit of a low point and it's also probably reflecting the portfolio skewing a little bit more of refinancings and repricings and not enough new deals.
When we get an environment with new deals, some of those may have those same non comparable measures and the statistic might go up a bit.
: Got it. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Our next question is from Finian O'Shea with Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC). Please proceed.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation1: Hey, everyone. Good morning. Craig, seeing if you guys can talk about the post quarter rehash in the SLFs, if that will sort of change in strategy or composition or anything else to think about?
Jonathan Lam, Chief Financial Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Hey, Fin, it's Jonathan. No real change in the strategy at all. What we're doing is really effectively taking our historical JV, which had long ago been a direct first lien portfolio that's evolved to a mix of some directs and then also some broadly syndicated loans as well. And we're effectively creating we've created a multi BDC joint venture, where effectively we can allocate out of all of our different BDCs in a much more efficient manner with much more efficient financing from an advance rate and from an interest cost perspective. And so what's happening over here is we're effectively moving the assets from the original JV into that multi BDC JV.
And there should be very, very little friction in terms of really any friction in terms of the returns to OVTC because they're effectively taking back a pro rata portion of that multi BDC JV with the transfer of those assets over.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation1: Okay. It's helpful. Thank you. And as a follow-up, I have you on unsecured mix. I know things change and everyone's opportunistic.
But I guess, let's say today, as we look through the merger and the 25 maturities, how should we think about the unsecured composition if that will go up or down in a substantial way?
Jonathan Lam, Chief Financial Officer, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Well, there are a few variables that go into that. We've got the merger closing. So right now, we're about 55% on a funded basis in unsecured. That will come down a little bit as we bring the 2 companies to about 50%. We've got around $1,000,000,000 that's coming due next year.
And so what you should expect from us is that we will definitively refinance. We don't want to bring that unsecured percentage down too much. That being said, we definitely see the secured financing markets as extremely attractive from a pricing perspective as we see the unsecured markets as well. But there is a gap there. So I don't think you should see too much of a material movement in terms of the percentages, but we definitely have the opportunity on the secured side to reprice some of our higher costs CLOs and other secured financing structures to lower cost over time.
Mike Mosticchio, Head of BDC Investor Relations, Blue Owl Capital Corporation1: Thanks so much.
Conference Operator: With no further questions in the queue, I would like to hand the conference back over to management for closing remarks.
Management Speaker, Blue Owl Capital Corporation: Okay. Well, look, thanks everyone for joining. We're really pleased with the quarter. As always, we're here to answer any of your questions. Please reach out separately if there's any follow ups and hope everybody has a great day.
Conference Operator: Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.
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