Equity Bancshares Incorporated (NYSE:EQBK), in its first quarter 2024 earnings call, reported a significant increase in net interest income and solid overall earnings. The company successfully integrated Bank of Kirksville following a swift 67-day merger process, boosting its core deposits by over $340 million and extending its market reach in North Central Missouri.
Equity Bank also repurchased 209,591 shares in the quarter. Improved net interest margins and increased non-interest income were among the highlights, while non-interest expenses met expectations. Asset quality remained high with minimal impact from the recent acquisition. Looking ahead, Equity Bank anticipates mid- to high-single digit organic loan growth for the year 2024.
Key Takeaways
- Record net interest income and strong earnings reported for Q1 2024.
- Successful merger with Rockhold Bancorp and acquisition of Bank of Kirksville.
- Share repurchase of 209,591 shares during the quarter.
- Net interest margin increased to 3.75%.
- Non-interest income rose by $4.5 million.
- Asset quality metrics remained strong with minimal impact from acquisitions.
- Anticipated mid- to high-single digit organic loan growth in 2024.
Company Outlook
- Equity Bank targets organic growth and strategic M&A opportunities.
- Positive outlook on the M&A front with expectations of market resolution.
- Bank's balance sheet asset sensitivity expected to stay neutral to rate changes.
- Plans to fund loan growth through client deposit growth, asset remixing, and potential borrowing.
Bearish Highlights
- The majority of problem assets were acquired loans, with less opportunity for further recoveries in the future.
Bullish Highlights
- Strong capitalization and asset quality metrics.
- Positive feedback and engagement from the Bank of Kirksville acquisition.
- Opportunities to reposition assets and redeploy excess liquidity into loans.
Misses
- No current figures on line utilization provided during the call.
Q&A Highlights
- Fair value accretion projected at $5 million over two to two-and-a-half years for the bond portfolio.
- Over $3 million fair value mark on the loan book expected to be realized over three-and-a-half to four-year timeframe.
- C&I growth driven by new credits, not increased line utilization.
- Proactive management of commercial real estate loans nearing maturity or rate reset.
Equity Bancshares Incorporated's first quarter of 2024 reflects a period of strategic growth and financial strength. The swift completion of the merger with Rockhold Bancorp and the acquisition of Bank of Kirksville have significantly expanded the company's footprint and core deposits.
The bank's focus on organic growth and strategic mergers and acquisitions is underscored by the anticipation of mid- to high-single digit loan growth in the coming year.
The bank's financial health is further evidenced by the improved net interest margin and the increase in non-interest income. The disciplined approach to maintaining asset quality and problem asset position has paid off, with the bank reporting minimal impact from the recent acquisitions. The addition of Craig Dunn as Regional CEO in the Community East market is expected to contribute to the bank's growth objectives.
Despite the bullish outlook, the bank remains cautious about the potential for further recoveries from problem assets, which are mostly acquired loans. However, the bank's proactive approach to managing its loan portfolio, particularly in the commercial real estate sector, demonstrates its commitment to maintaining financial stability.
The call concluded with no further questions, indicating a comprehensive presentation of Equity Bancshares Incorporated's current financial position and future prospects. The bank's strategic initiatives, combined with its strong financial performance in the first quarter, position it well for continued success in 2024.
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Full transcript - Equity Bancshares Inc (EQBK) Q1 2024:
Operator: Hello, and welcome to the Equity Bancshares Incorporated Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Harry, and I'll be coordinating your call today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand over to your host, Brian Katzfey, Vice President, Director of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Equity to begin. Please go ahead.
Brian Katzfey: Good morning. Thank you for joining us today for Equity Bancshares' first quarter earnings call. Before we begin, let me remind you that today's call is being recorded and is available via webcast at investor.equitybank.com along with our earnings release and presentation materials. Today's presentation contains forward-looking statements which are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed. Following the presentation, we will allow time for questions and further discussion. Thank you all for joining us. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Brad Elliott.
Brad Elliott: Good morning, and thank you for joining Equity Bancshares' earnings call. We're excited today to take you through our first quarter results, including record net interest income, strong overall earnings, and the completion of our merger with Rockhold Bancorp, just 67 days after a formal announcement. Joining me today is Rick Sems, our Bank President; Chris Navratil, CFO; Krzysztof Slupkowski, our Chief Credit Officer. We entered the year positioned to grow our balance sheet and revenue streams through both organic and acquisitive avenues. During the quarter, we executed on this positioning with the cash acquisition of Rockhold, as well as organic commercial loan growth. The Bank of Kirksville added more than $340 million in core deposits over eight locations in North Central Missouri. Our new team members in the market are excited to be a part of the Equity Bank franchise, and continue to provide excellent service to their communities. Our team remains focused on organic growth initiatives while completing the transaction. Rick has worked hard to enhance the sales culture throughout our organization which will pay dividends through the remainder of the year. We have excellent leaders and operators throughout our organization that I expect to thrive under Rick's leadership. Growth in earnings, driven by our growing balance sheet, allowed us to emphasize shareholder return through continuation of quarterly dividends as well as active participation in our share repurchase program. During the quarter, we repurchased 209,591 shares under the current authorization of up to 1 million shares. While uncertainty remains in the economic environment, our bank closes the quarter with a well-positioned balance sheet to continue to take advantage of opportunities to grow both organically and through strategic M&A. Our team members are engaged, and have the tools to meet the needs of our community. I am proud of how we started the year and look forward to continuing our positive momentum. I will let Chris talk you through our financial results.
Chris Navratil: Thank you, Brad. Last night we reported net income of [$14.9] (ph) million, or $0.90 per diluted share. Adjusting for merger expenses incurred related to Bank of Kirksville as well as the day one provision for the acquired performing loans, net income was $16.1 million or $1.03 per diluted share. Net interest income was up $4.7 million linked quarter while net interest margin improved from 3.49% to 3.75%. We will discuss margin dynamics in more detail later in this call. Non-interest income, adjusted for the loss on the repositioning of investments in Q4, was up $4.5 million linked quarter. The positive trend was driven by $2.7 million in positive outcomes on special assets as well as $1.2 million in gain on acquisition related to the Bank of Kirksville transaction. In addition to these non-run rate items, we also saw service fee revenue, including service charges, debit card, credit card, trust and wealth management and mortgage, improve by 5% during the quarter. Non-interest expenses adjusted for one-time M&A charges totaling $35.5 million or modestly up linked quarter and in line with expectations based on the timing of the Bank of Kirksville close. While we are still in the process of finalizing the accounting for the Bank of Kirksville transaction, original estimates continue to appear in line with 2024 EPS accretion of $0.36. The gain on acquisition is primarily due to the improvement in the fair value of Kirksville's bond portfolio between the announcement date and close. As previously disclosed, merger of systems will be completed during Q2, after which cost saves are expected to be fully realized. Our GAAP net income included a provision for credit loss of $1.0 million. The provision for the quarter is entirely attributable to the day-one adjustment to reflect the acquisition of the Bank of Kirksville portfolio. We continue to hold reserve for potential economic challenges; however, to-date, we have not seen any specific concerns in our operating markets. The March 31 coverage of ACL to loans is 1.28%. I'll stop here for a moment and let Krzysztof talk through our asset quality for the quarter.
Krzysztof Slupkowski: Thanks, Chris. Asset quality metrics continue to screen at historically low levels, with total classified loans closing the quarter at $39 million or 6.65% of total bank regulatory capital. The acquisition of Bank of Kirksville had a negligible impact on the bank's problem asset position. Non-accrual loans as a percentage of total loans remained below 70 basis points. Net charge-offs annualized were 8 basis points for the quarter. Recognized charge-offs have been reflective of specific circumstances on individual credits and not related to broader concern in the markets in which we operate. Under the current interest rate environment, we have updated our portfolio of stress test and completed a full cycle of annual reviews and renewals incorporating the latest operating results of our borrowers. These evaluations continue to affirm the resiliency of the portfolio and highlight the strength of local economies as evidenced by our credit quality trends. Nevertheless, we acknowledge that risk remains. Through the end of the first quarter, we have not seen specific deterioration in any of our portfolios. As mentioned previously, we benefited in the quarter from the resolution of specific assets totaling $2.7 million, and are reflected in other income. This positive result is primarily driven by recovery on two credits from the Almena State Bank acquisition and the effort of our legal and special assets team led by Brett Reber and June Pressnell. Chris?
Chris Navratil: Thanks, Krzysztof. Average loans increased during the quarter at an annualized rate of 11.1%, excluding the impact of the Bank of Kirksville, which added $67.6 million in average balance into the quarter. During the quarter, the coupon yield on loans increased to 6.83% from 6.71%. Overall loan yields improved 23 basis points during the quarter to 6.85% as the headwinds impacting Q4 2023 results were not repeated. Our bond portfolio yield improved to 3.84% from 2.73%. The positive trend was driven by the bond repositioning during the fourth quarter, in addition to the purchase accounting marks on the Bank of Kirksville portfolio. Cost of interest-bearing deposits increased 19 basis points to 2.77% in the quarter, while the contribution of average noninterest-bearing deposits to the average deposit mix declined to 21.7% from 22.8%. The Bank of Kirksville transaction was accretive to this number. We closed the quarter with a period-end ratio of 22.5%. Net interest income totaled $44.2 million during the quarter, up $4.7 million in the fourth quarter, as our earnings streams benefited from previous period strategic decisioning and continues to outpace rising funding costs. We continue to carry excess cash balances, which are offset by wholesale borrowings. We are currently earning a positive spread on these positions, though it does have the effect of reducing margin. We calculate that the excess liquidity has the effect of reducing margin by 8 basis points for the current quarter. Non-interest expense during the quarter was $35.5 million, excluding $1.6 million in realized merger charges. Salaries and benefits increased $1.4 million due to annual compensation adjustments, the addition of Kirksville team members, and front-loaded payroll tax impact. As previously disclosed, the integration of systems following the Bank of Kirksville transaction will take place in Q2, after which cost saves will be fully realized. Our outlook slide includes a forecast for the second quarter as well as full year 2024. We do not include future rate changes, though our forecast still includes the effects of lagging repricing in both our loan and deposit portfolios. Our provision is forecast to be approximately 12 basis points to average loans. Rick?
Rick Sems: I am pleased with our start to 2024 and all that we are positioned to accomplish moving forward as we continue to emphasize value creation in our markets. Our team was able to successfully close a merger transaction in 67 days following an announcement, an incredible accomplishment in the current environment. I need to give Julie Huber and her entire team a big shout out. This result is only possible with the full leadership team working together. While working through the transaction, our legacy customer base and markets remained in focus. We started the quarter strong, but have seen some of our expected Q1 loan closings move to Q2. In addition, we continue to take advantage of opportunities to exit certain credits and low-yielding loans. With that said, we believe our prospects remain strong for the remainder of the year. As we close the quarter, pipelines remain strong, increasing 15% from year-end. And we look to build on our culture of sales as we move forward. As we drive a culture of sales, we have hired a Managing Director of Sales and Training, seasoned executive, Betty Bergquist. Betty will be aligning our team with the primary focus of organic growth. During the quarter, customer deposit balances, excluding Bank of Kirksville accounts, trended consistently with expectations as excess municipality dollars that were added in Q4 were moved out. Total deposits closed the quarter at $4.4 billion. Loans as a percentage of deposits closed at 79.7%, positioning our bank to be a capable lender for new and current customers in our footprint. Our teams are focused on value creation through deepening relationships, identifiable expertise and application of a high-operating tempo that ensures our customers receive the high level of service they have come to expect of our bank. This focus, coupled with the opportunity provided by our balance sheet position, and growing marketplaces, had me excited for our outlook over the remainder of the year. Partnering with the Bank of Kirksville and their committed team of banking professionals provide added scale and market expansion, which will contribute to our growth goals throughout 2024. Early feedback shows an engaged team exceeding expectations. As indicated in our outlook slide, we continue to expect to drive mid- to high-single digit organic loan growth in 2024. We have the strategy, discipline, tools and people in place to realize this expectation. I look forward to assisting the team in execution. Service revenues improved quarter-over-quarter, including increasing contributions from card, trust and wealth management, service charges and mortgage. Our teams are focused on enhancing customer value in 2024 and beyond which we expect to drive expansion of business lines moving forward. Finally, I am pleased to announce the addition of Craig Dunn, Regional CEO in our Community East market, including Western and North Central Missouri. Craig joins us with extensive experience in the markets he will now be overseeing. I look forward to partnering with Craig as we look to continue to build in these markets.
Brad Elliott: Our company is well capitalized. Our asset quality metrics continue to be the best they have been in the history of Equity. Our balance sheet structure is positioned for times like this. Our team is experienced, and we have a widespread granular deposit base. Our strategic directives for 2024 have me more excited than I have been since the beginning of 2020. Our team has taken the Board's strategic initiatives, and are hitting the ground running. We look forward to continuing to redeploy assets into customer relationships that build franchise value. We continue to see momentum on the M&A front and expect that to continue. We've had several positive conversations, and we feel the distressed market will begin to resolve itself as well. Equity will remain disciplined in our approach to assessing these opportunities, emphasizing value while controlling dilution and the earn-back timeline. With that, we are happy to take your questions.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question today is from the line of Terry McEvoy of Stephens Inc. Terry, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Terry McEvoy, your line is now open, if you'd like to proceed with your question. My apologies, Terry, if you could just repeat your question, that would be great. Thank you.
Terry McEvoy: Yeah, sorry about that. Good morning, everybody. Chris, how are you thinking about a higher for longer rate environment in terms of where and when deposit rates will peak in your forecast?
Chris Navratil: Yeah. So, Terry, our forecast currently isn't including any kind of changes in interest rates, so we're not factoring any reductions or increases. So, it's holding flat to where we are today. I think, as we look at peaking out deposit rates, we've been thinking about between 40% and 50% as a maximum beta, we're still sub-40% today, so about 36% is our beta thus far. I expect that is going to get above 40%, but I'm optimistic we're not going to get to the high levels that we talked about previously, which is that kind of 50% beta perspective. We're continuing to see opportunities with deposits, and because we have a meaningful aspect of our portfolio that's already out there at kind of what I consider high ends of the market, we have opportunities to reposition some as well. So, we're still thinking about between -- we expect to hit 40% on an all-in beta and potentially creep above it, but I think we'll stay below the 50% overall, even in the higher for longer world.
Terry McEvoy: Excellent. Seems like once you're asked the question on fee income, can you just remind me where you've made investments and where you see incremental growth in fees this year?
Chris Navratil: Yeah. So, I think we're seeing incremental growth on the treasury management side in our service revenues, and then we're also seeing it in our wealth management area. So, we just kind of rolled out a new product set with some bundles on business side. So, we continue to expect to see some growth in that area.
Brad Elliott: And if you remember, Terry, a couple of years ago we started our corporate credit card business and that is still not mature yet. So, I think we have still lots of room for expansion, which creates interchange income off of that corporate credit card business.
Terry McEvoy: And then maybe I'll squeeze one last one in. Brad, the 67 days from announcement to close, so many other deals are just have been delayed much, much longer and extended. I guess my question is, what's the special sauce? What's working for you to announce a deal, get it closed, get it converted and move on to your next one? Because others just haven't been as successful.
Brad Elliott: Well, I think some of that is just communication with the regulators on what you're working on, what fits their box and our box, and having it be something in our footprint that doesn't have lots of issues around it. And so, I think it has to do with delegated authority outside of Washington DC is what really helps those transactions. And so, let's don't tell everybody in the world that, that happened so that somebody doesn't figure out how to squash that. So, we're crossing our fingers and just happy that it's happening that way.
Terry McEvoy: Perfect. Thanks for the insight. Appreciate it.
Operator: Our next question today is from the line of Brett Rabatin of Hovde Group. Brett, your line is open if you'd like to proceed with your question.
Brett Rabatin: Hey, guys, good morning. Wanted to start with the commercial real estate portfolio and just what's repricing on that this year and next year, and just how much opportunity might you have to reset the bar, so to speak, on some of the loan portfolio from a yield perspective?
Rick Sems: Yeah. This is Rick. So, we're repricing every single month, meaning roughly on average kind of $100 million or so. And all of those are -- as the rates stay longer, we still have quite a bit -- and I'll have to get you the exact number as far as, I don't know, Chris, if you have that, for what's actually coming up. But about $100 million each month it looks like we put on, and we're putting those on, on average around 8.5% -- 8.3% to 8.5% each month. So, there's still room to go on that piece of repricing. So, we can get you some -- the exact numbers for -- we look at it on each quarter how much is getting coming due, so that's all available. And what we've been doing is, on some of those, we choose then if we can't get that rate, we choose to exit those relationships if it's not -- if there's not enough meaningful business.
Brad Elliott: We started the cycle, though, over 50% of our portfolio was floating. And so, that's two years ago now, and we didn't go longer on commercial -- on commercial deals, we didn't go longer than five years. And most of the time we were three years or less. So, I don't know the dollar amount that's left in there, but it's not as significant.
Rick Sems: Yeah, I think in total -- I can't remember. We talked about it last quarter. I can't remember the exact number. We'll get you that.
Brett Rabatin: Okay. Appreciate that. And then just on the loan pipeline, it sounds like you guys are pretty optimistic on growth this year, maybe relative to some peers. And just wanted to hear maybe how much of that was just organic growth with your existing customers versus maybe some opportunities to take market share from maybe some other banks that are pulling back given their balance sheet constraints, et cetera?
Chris Navratil: Yeah. So I mean, we are really pushing on getting out and calling on prospects. So, we're seeing that -- I think we kind of started that in the fourth quarter and we're starting to see some benefit from that, especially on the C&I side. So, we had a little growth in the first quarter in C&I. We want to see more of that as we move into the second half of the year. So, that aspect of it that we're looking, a lot of that is new business. So again, with new business though, and when it's on the pipeline, as you know, that there's absolutely guarantee that that's going to close. But what -- the more looks we get, the more opportunity for this year and for next year and the following year.
Brett Rabatin: Okay. And if I could sneak in one last one, too, on the deals that you guys are looking at, is there a benchmark or a way for us to think about accretion levels that you would consider with transactions from here?
Rick Sems: Maybe a little bit of detail on that, Brett, in terms of accretion level, what are you referring to? Like, what you're looking for in terms of running rate accretion versus what we're willing to accept on dilution or...
Brett Rabatin: Yeah. Just the typical parameters around -- if you're looking at transactions and my guess is that any deals that you're looking at a bank's balance sheet might have some underwater assets. And so, the pricing might be relatively attractive. And so, to some extent, you're fixing someone's balance sheet that's underwater and so just thinking about those opportunities as they come what your parameters might be for tangible payback and accretion from an EPS perspective, what you'd be looking for, those sort of things.
Brad Elliott: So, I would say, we haven't changed our parameter on earn back. So, if accretion waters down equity, we would, I mean, it still has to be less than a three year earn back, or maybe even less than that, because there is some risk in that accretable yield going away quicker. But we haven't changed any of our parameters on what we're looking at from a transaction standpoint.
Chris Navratil: Yeah. And one other thing I'd just add Brad is, as we think about those transactions, we're trying to look at them in terms of the fair value of that balance sheet after we're done, so when the marks are kind of all the way through the process. So, as we look at pricing, as we look at a lot of the conversations we're having, it's focused more on what is the balance sheet worth versus what is tangible book value today. So, willing to accept a little bit less dilution, typically just because of the way we're looking at structuring those transactions.
Brett Rabatin: Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, guys.
Operator: Our next question today is from the line of Andrew Liesch of Piper Sandler. Andrew, your line is open if you'd like to proceed with your question.
Andrew Liesch: Thanks. Good morning, guys. So, just a question. Now with the Bank of Kirksville deal closed, has the asset sensitivity of the balance sheet shifted much at all?
Chris Navratil: Not meaningfully, Andrew. The Kirksville assets are relatively short, but there's a little bit of duration in there. So, you're still looking at kind of two to three years overall. They don't have a lot of fixed long term on the loan side. And then, their liabilities are predominantly non-time based. So, in theory, completely flexible, but just kind of depends on how the market moves in competition base.
Andrew Liesch: Okay. So, still pretty neutral to rate changes?
Brad Elliott: Yeah. You might talk about some of the positives we're already seeing in there.
Chris Navratil: Yeah. I mean, we're seeing deposit growth right now. We're seeing a really engaged group of folks. And so, it continues to be a really good source of deposits for us. And what we're able to do is, in that market, bring in a lot of the digital products that we have. And so, there's actually a, from the clientele side, really liking what we're doing. And as a result, I think we're going to continue to see maybe a little bit -- we were kind of wanting to just hold serve there on deposits. I think we might continue to see some decent growth there through the end of the year.
Andrew Liesch: Got it. That actually kind of leads into my next question on funding the loan growth for this year. Is it going to come from client deposit growth, or is there any remixing of assets that might fund it as well?
Chris Navratil: I think, the answer to that is both, Andrew, and then optimistically, we'll get all the loan growth that we could hope for. And then, you can see some funding via wholesale and borrowing as well because we have the capacity to do it. Now, our bond portfolio, especially the Kirksville portfolio is very short, so you're going to see some cash flows coming in that give us opportunities to reposition into loans. We also have some cash, as we kind of -- as you mentioned on the phone call, that excess liquidity we're carrying, that can be repositioned into loans. So, we have opportunities today to redeploy assets ideally in the customer relationships. And those cash flows will continue to come through as the year goes on.
Brad Elliott: And I would add that given the discipline that we've had on cost of funds, it just gives us dry powder to make a decision as things move in the market. So, I think we're on a real strong point there, as Chris had said, to do either one.
Andrew Liesch: Got it. That's all really helpful. I'll step back. Thanks for taking the question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Jeff Rulis of D.A. Davidson. Jeff, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Jeff Rulis: Thanks. Just a couple of credit questions, if I could. Some encouraging linked-quarter statistics. Maybe going back to last quarter, that primary residence mortgage credit that was brought on or identified, any movement on that specifically?
Brad Elliott: Yeah. We were able to get that. We actually sold the note and moved that credit on.
Jeff Rulis: Okay. And then, a broader question on, I guess, the balance of existing NPAs or even classifieds, of that, what were acquired versus kind of legacy? I know that blurs the lines, but as we've talked about, I think, you've been successful in chasing down sort of gains from or recoveries from acquired loans. Just trying to get a sense for of the bucket of NPAs or classifieds, what of that is acquired and what was underwritten legacy?
Brad Elliott: Yeah. So, if you look back on the last few years on a historical basis, you're going to find that majority of our problem assets are acquired loans. So, more than half of what you see is actually acquired. And that's been the case for the last few years. And as you can tell, our assets are -- problem assets are going down quarter by quarter, seems like it. And part of it is due to kind of slowdown in the M&A space, but also on our special assets teams and our legal team is just focused on resolving some of these issues and execute on the contracts that we have in place and better our positions.
Jeff Rulis: And Krzysztof, of those acquired that you're sort of going after, I don't know if there's a -- if we're in the seventh inning of all that have been acquired, do you think you chase down recoveries? Is there a percent of that? Just trying to get a sense for. It sounds like maybe there's potential for further recoveries. Any way to position where you are in that process of at least of what you know of what you've acquired to date?
Krzysztof Slupkowski: Yes, I would say the big wins have already been won, and whatever there's a little bit of it left, not much. But I would say, on the recovery side, there's probably less opportunity going forward. I would say that our problem assets loans today, they're well reserved and I don't see any further losses or recoveries in that space.
Brad Elliott: We do have a large recovery that we are still chasing out there. So, substantial one that is still out there.
Jeff Rulis: Got it. And Brad, I appreciate the M&A thoughts. Pivoting to the buyback, I mean, can we view that as you can kind of do both or more specifically, I think shares are trading kind of around where kind of the average price you had last quarter. Just checking in on the appetite of buyback, is that weighing or increase with M&A opportunities? Or do you feel like that's going to be -- at least for the short term, going to be a pretty steady level or maybe even greater from your perspective?
Brad Elliott: Yeah, I think we'll still remain active in the M&A -- or in the buyback market. And we don't have anything imminent that -- like a couple of quarters ago, we knew we had Kirksville that was coming, that hadn't been announced yet. But so we stopped the buybacks as we were building cash to be able to make sure we had enough cash to transact that. On the M&A front, we do have conversations going, but we don't have any of those conversations that would have as big a need for cash as that one did. So, I think we will continue to be opportunistic in the buyback market.
Jeff Rulis: Okay. Thank you.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] And our next question today is from the line of Damon DelMonte from Stephens. Damon, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Damon DelMonte: Hey, good morning, everyone. Hope you guys are all doing well. My question -- first question is regarding the margin. So, this quarter's margin, Chris, was 3.75%. How much fair value accretion was included in that?
Chris Navratil: The total fair value accretion there is when you combine all of our transactions, so not just BOK specifically, there was $150,000 in loans as well as less than $0.5 million in bonds.
Damon DelMonte: Okay. And how should we think about kind of a projected fair value accretion going forward?
Chris Navratil: Yeah. So, the bond portfolio we acquired was $5 million underwater. So, we're going to accrete $5 million on the bond portfolio over two to two-and-a-half year life, which is relatively well in line with what we disclosed as we went through the deal mechanics to begin with. The fair value mark on the loan book is just north of $3 million. That $3 million will come in over -- we're currently projecting a life of between three-and-a-half and four years. So, that's just going to be realized over that time horizon.
Damon DelMonte: Got it. Okay. And then, does the guidance that you guys provided in the slide deck incorporate the projected fair value, or is that excluding that?
Chris Navratil: It includes it.
Damon DelMonte: It does include it. Okay. Great. And then, with regards to the C&I growth -- I'm sorry?
Chris Navratil: I was just saying it's reflective of the BOK, yeah.
Damon DelMonte: Okay. Great. Thank you. And then, with regards to the C&I growth this quarter, how much of that was increased in line utilization versus new credits coming on the books?
Chris Navratil: It was new credits.
Damon DelMonte: It was all new credits? Okay. And do you do you have a level of where the line utilization stands today and kind of how that's fared more recently?
Chris Navratil: I don't have that right in front of me. We can get that for you.
Brad Elliott: Yeah. We...
Damon DelMonte: Okay. Great.
Brad Elliott: Yeah, we don't have that calculator.
Damon DelMonte: Okay. No problem. And then just lastly on the CRE, thanks for the color on kind of the expected maturities that are forthcoming. From a broader perspective, are you guys kind of having proactive conversations with the borrowers that are on tap to mature, have their rates reset, so you can kind of be in position to know whether or not you're going to have to move them off the books or come up with a different solution just so that there's not a -- you have a handful of credits one quarter that have to exit and it kind of impacts the overall growth? Like, are you having those initial conversations with folks?
Brad Elliott: Yeah. We're absolutely being proactive on looking at that. I mean that's why we try to work ahead at least at a minimum, a quarter ahead to have those conversations. And then, as we're bringing them into credit committee, we have those discussions on yields and then also on ones in which there might be something that we just don't like the credits. And as Krzysztof has done and his team has done, I mean, we're doing a lot of stress testing on it to understand if rates are being reset, what that's going to look like. So that -- we're working well ahead of that. We know that now. We know that in advance for those ones that are at very low rates being raised up based on what their performance has been, if they can handle it or not. So yes, we're absolutely doing that proactively.
Damon DelMonte: Got it. Okay. Great. That's all that I had. Thank you very much.
Operator: Thank you. We have no further questions in the queue at this time. So, this will bring us to the end of the Equity Bancshares Incorporated Q1 2024 earnings conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
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