Copart, Inc. (CPRT), a global leader in online vehicle auctions, reported a strong start to Fiscal 2025 with first-quarter results showcasing significant growth in unit sales and revenue. The company's adept response to recent hurricanes and strategic investments underscored its operational resilience and future growth prospects.
Key Takeaways
- Copart's global unit sales and inventory rose by 12% and 6%, respectively.
- U.S. business unit growth stood at 11%, with a 12% increase in insurance unit volume.
- Global revenue reached $1.15 billion, a 12% increase, with service revenue up by 15%.
- The company successfully managed vehicle processing during hurricanes Helane and Milton, selling about a quarter of all assigned vehicles by the end of October.
- Long-term industry trends indicate a growing total loss frequency, with organic growth expected from various factors.
- Strategic investments are being made in physical capacity, technology, logistics, and Title Express services.
- Copart remains financially strong with $246 million in free cash flow and over $4.9 billion in liquidity.
- International business unit growth was nearly 16%, with international average selling prices (ASPs) up by nearly 7%.
Company Outlook
- Continued investment in expanding physical storage capacity, technology, towing, and transport networks.
- Anticipation of meaningful growth in specialty equipment gross transaction value in the next 12 to 24 months.
- Positive outlook on leveraging competitive advantages for future growth.
Bearish Highlights
- No specific bearish trends or concerns were highlighted during the call.
Bullish Highlights
- Strong performance indicators such as unit sales, revenue growth, and increased international ASPs.
- Successful handling of catastrophic events, showcasing operational efficiency.
Misses
- The transcript summary does not indicate any misses or shortfalls in the company's performance.
Q&A highlights
- CEO Jeff Liao emphasized the expectation of ongoing organic industry growth.
- Investments in land, capacity, and technology were highlighted as key drivers of future success.
- CFO Leah Stearns projected significant growth in specialty equipment gross transaction value in the near term.
In summary, Copart's first-quarter results for Fiscal 2025 painted a picture of a robust company capitalizing on industry trends and strategic investments to ensure continued growth. The company's effective response to natural disasters and its strong financial position with substantial liquidity put it in a favorable position to tackle future challenges and opportunities in the vehicle auction industry.
Full transcript - Copart Inc (NASDAQ:CPRT) Q1 2025:
Conference Moderator: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Copart Incorporated First Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Call. Just a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. Before turning the call over to management, I will share Copart's Safe Harbor statement. The company's comments today include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, including management's current views with respect to trends, opportunities and uncertainties in the company's markets. These forward looking statements involve substantial risks and uncertainties.
For more detail on the risks associated with the company's business, we refer you to the section titled Risk Factors and the company's Annual Report on Form 10 ks for the year ended July 31, 2024, and each of the company's subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Any forward looking statements are made as of today, and the company has no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements. I will now turn the call over to the company's CEO, Jeff Liao.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Thank you, everyone, for joining the earnings call for our Q1 for fiscal 2025. On our recent calls, we've been talking about some important themes about our business, including our recent growth with bank, rental and fleet sellers. We talked about Title Express, a new offering we're offering the insurance industry. We've talked about sustainability, and we've talked about growth in our international businesses as well as in the heavy equipment space as well. Today, with the Q1 past us for this next fiscal year, we thought it would be a good opportunity to reflect specifically about our insurance business specifically.
There are 2 themes I wanted to draw upon today. 1st is our response to the recent hurricane activity in the Southeastern United States. And the second is the longer term trends that we observe in the insurance industry more broadly. First, regarding the recent flurry of hurricane activity. In late September of this year, Category 4 Hurricane Helane made landfall in Florida.
Severe flooding, of course, struck the Tampa, St. Petersburg area and eventually caused significant damage elsewhere in Florida, Georgia and North and South Carolina, including areas not accustomed to dealing with storms of this magnitude. Then less than 2 weeks later, Category 3 Hurricane Milton struck Florida again. The back to back nature of the storms added a level of complexity to our storm response that we hadn't previously experienced, including a brief evacuation of our own people in certain most dangerous areas. In comparison to Hurricane Ian, a similarly scaled and located storm from just 2 years ago, our advanced preparation and our team's execution this time around yielded still better results with approximately twice as many vehicles picked up in the 1st 10 days of these 2024 storms in comparison to Ian in 2022.
As always, our emphasis is on retrieving, processing and selling vehicles as quickly as we can to help restore the communities in which we do business back to their prior state and to assist our clients, the major insurance companies in resolving their claims with policyholders as quickly as they can. To that end, by the end of October, just 3 weeks after landfall for Milton, we had sold approximately a quarter of all of the assigned vehicles we would ultimately receive from both Helane and Milton. In fact, according to 1 third party source, 3 out of every 4 catastrophic units sold in Florida during the month of October were sold on Copart's auction platform, a reflection both of our presence as well as the speed of our execution. This go around, our proactive storm preparation was marked by 3 pillars. 1st, the dedicated owned storage capacity that we hold in reserve for storms of this nature, representing nearly 2,000 acres nationwide and approximately 1,000 acres specifically for the Helane and Milton areas alone.
2nd, our technology and logistics teams have deployed real time tools that serve both our own people as well as our 3rd party towing network as well as our own employed drivers in optimizing routing and optimizing dispatch for the rapid retrieval and movement of vehicles through our network. And finally, our industry leading contracted and full time towing and transport network, which we have steadily built up over the years, was able to respond with unprecedented speed in this instance. I've already had an opportunity to do so face to face with many of the Copart's employees, but we again wanted to extend our heartfelt gratitude to the more than 1200 folks and their families who sacrificed for days, in some cases weeks months at a time to work in challenging conditions, to work long hours to assist again our clients, our people and our communities. Turning our attention to our insurance business more broadly. Our insurance business grew approximately 13% for the quarter in unit volume when excluding the effect of catastrophic events, we grew 9% year over year for the quarter.
Total (EPA:TTEF) loss frequency was certainly one of the major catalysts we experienced with the total loss frequency for the calendar quarter ending September 30th reported by CCC (WA:CCCP) of 21.7 percent, an increase of almost 2% year over year. More broadly though, we wanted to pause for a moment to reflect on longer term industry trends. There, as you know, has been a steady drumbeat in the news media and in various company announcements on accident avoidance technologies and autonomous driving rollouts over the past decade plus. And in addition, we've encountered a number of inquiries in recent days from investors and other interested parties on this subject as well. Our answer here will be especially U.
S. Centric, but the takeaways, I think, are broadly applicable to the markets in which we do business. We all, of course, draw inferences from our own empirical experience. The cars we drive, we now experience more of the safety technologies in the form of lane departure warning systems that buzz our steering wheels, rear cameras that we probably all use when we back up our cars nowadays. And many of us have also taken rides in autonomous taxis within the geofenced areas in which they're operating today.
We think there's also insight to be derived, however, from multiple decade trends that we can observe in actual data. There are 4 factors I wanted to draw out today, and then a secondary consideration I wanted to offer that inform our perspective on the long term organic growth trends in our business. The first is simply population growth. Since 1960, population in the United States has grown at 1% compounded, which sounds like a fairly modest growth rate, but over a time horizon of that scale, our population has almost doubled in the United States. The second consideration is vehicle miles traveled, which over that same horizon plus or minus has grown at 2%.
As a result, vehicle miles traveled over that horizon has quadrupled from 1960 today, which is to say that ultimately vehicle miles traveled as a country grows more populous and more prosperous as the United States has done, generally outpaces population growth alone. We're all aware, of course, of the anomalous, very well documented steep decline in vehicle miles traveled in 2020, courtesy of COVID-nineteen. We are now above pre pandemic peaks on this specific metric. If you were to look at a visual chart showing vehicle miles traveled over this 60 plus year period, I think you'd likely also conclude that we still have several years of return to work tailwinds ahead of us as more and more businesses implement those policies. The 3rd phenomenon I wanted to comment on specifically is accident rates and their long term trends downwards.
So over the past 30 years, the Department of Transportation has published data on police reported crashes. There is one anomalous trend from the 2014 to 2018 period, I think marked likely by the proliferation of smartphones and the addictive apps that certainly afflict us all that caused accident rates actually to increase in certain years during that period. But nonetheless, over the decades long horizon, we've seen a steady decline in accidents per miles driven. And in fact, today versus 1990, there are approximately 1 third fewer crashes and fatalities per 1,000,000 miles driven. But in absolute terms, that decline has only been 8% because of the offsetting effects of the growth in population and vehicle miles travel.
Safety Technologies penetrates gradually into new vehicle shipments and still more gradually into the installed base of drivable vehicles. And it is that fleet effect, which causes the gradual decline in accidents relative to the perhaps more innovative technology deployments exhibited or implemented by OEMs today. And then the 4th and most important driver of our business is total loss frequency itself. It has been the key catalyst in our growth now for decades and has grown more than fourfold since 1990. This again is a phenomenon that has exhibited a nearly monotonic increase over that period, but for an anomaly in late 2021 early 2022, when the pop in used car prices made total loss a relatively expensive settlement procedure for insurance companies, briefly suppressing total loss frequency.
We are yet again above pre pandemic highs on this specific metric. The long term catalyst here is that vehicles become ever more complex, including for reasons of the safety technologies we've already talked about today and therefore more expensive to repair, rendering the repair path less attractive, while also the intrinsic value of these vehicles rise via our marketplace. We find still more buyers in places like Eastern Europe, Central and South America, Africa and elsewhere, where their mobility needs are ultimately satisfied by our wrecked cars. The proliferation of safety technologies that drive accident frequency down, and by the way, there have been multiple rounds of these technologies over the decades from anti lock brakes in the 70s 80s to the more sensor driven technologies of today. But the proliferation of these technologies is not incidental to total loss frequency, but in fact directly causal.
These technologies tend to be enabled by sensors and chips often configured on the perimeter of vehicles, rendering them quickly and easily damaged in an accident and raising the cost of repair as a result. Those cars in turn are still quite valuable to our destination markets as drivable contributors to the mobility in those markets. One additional secondary driver I thought was worth mentioning today is the phenomenon of uninsured, underinsured and undercapitalized motorists specifically. On the point of uninsured or liability only drivers, there is a very clear 30 year plus trend downward, meaning over time in a market like the United States, insurance coverage generally becomes more robust. We do, however, observe cyclicality within that longer term secular trend, driven in part by insurance premiums, the economic health of the country and so forth.
In the past year or 2, in particular, the insurance premiums have generally increased at a pace at a rate outpacing other components of the consumer experience, in part because of the natural regulatory lag in raising insurance rates. As a result then, the liability only plus uninsured motorists combined are a greater share of the drivable fleet than they had been in prior years. Again, the long term trend here appears to be a secular trend downwards in any case. The upshot of all of the above for us is that as we look forward on a 5, 10 20 year horizon, our baseline expectation continues to be of ongoing organic industry growth as population and vehicle miles traveled trends plus total loss frequency most importantly of all more than offset declining accident frequency as Safety Technologies penetrates new vehicle shipments and eventually the drivable fleet. We do expect perhaps more volatility from contributors such as used car prices from severe weather events and the like.
On both fronts then, we're investing accordingly to ensure that we have the physical technology and capacity to serve our insurance clients under any conditions. With that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Leah Stearns.
Leah Stearns, CFO, Copart: Thank you, Jeff. I'll begin with our Q1 sales trends. During the quarter, our global unit sales and inventory increased 12% and 6%, respectively, from the year ago period and was a function of growth in total loss frequency and share gains. Focusing on our U. S.
Business, unit growth was about 11%, which reflects fee unit growth of 11% and purchase unit growth of nearly 6%. Consignment or fee units continue to constitute the vast majority of our U. S. Unit volume. Our U.
S. Insurance unit volume increased about 12% year over year and approximately 9% excluding cat units. We continue to grow our volume with non insurance sellers by leveraging our core capabilities in outdoor storage via our real estate portfolio, a strong network of logistics solutions and a global liquid buyer base. We are also seeking to optimize the mix of non insurance units from a profitability perspective as we continue to prune the low value unit volume. During the quarter, our BlueCar business, which serves our bank and finance fleet and rental segment partners, continued its strong trend of year over year growth of over 20%.
Our dealer sales volume, a combination of our Copart Dealer Services division and National Powersports Auctions increased sales volumes by over 2 percent year over year with CDS declining less than 1% and NPA increasing nearly 14%. And low value units including charities and municipalities declining 4%. On a final note, our partner in the specialty equipment space, Purple Wave, has driven double digit gross transaction value growth year over year for the trailing 12 month period ending October 31, which significantly outpaces industry growth in the equipment auction marketplaces they serve. This impressive growth demonstrates the value of our partnership and what it brings to the market. Overall inventory levels in the U.
S. Increased over 5% and decreased by about 1% when excluding low value and cat units. Turning to our international business. We saw unit growth of nearly 16% in the quarter, including about 6% from cat units due to severe floods in the UAE and Brazil, with fee units increasing about 16% in Q1 and purchase units increasing by just over 14% for the quarter. Our international business ended the quarter with inventory levels over 10% ahead of prior year.
Global ASPs declined by less than 1% for the quarter relative to the year ago period. Our U. S. ASPs continue to show resilience and are significantly outperforming the used vehicle market more broadly. While the Mannheim used vehicle price index declined by about 4% year over year, our U.
S. Insurance ASPs declined by only 1% over the same time period and had a slight increase of about 1% sequentially. Internationally, ASPs increased nearly 7%. Turning to our financial performance, global revenue in the quarter increased to $1,150,000,000 representing growth of over $126,000,000 or about 12%. Global service revenue increased nearly $127,000,000 or about 15% for the Q1, primarily due to increased volume.
U. S. Service revenue grew by about 13% for the quarter, which included 2% attributable to cat units, and international service revenue grew by about 30%. Global purchased vehicle sales for the Q1 decreased less than $1,000,000 or approximately 20 basis points, while global purchased vehicle gross profit increased by about 72% in the Q1. In the U.
S, purchased vehicle revenue was up about $9,000,000 or about 12%, while purchased vehicle gross profit increased nearly $5,000,000 or about 77% for the quarter. Internationally, purchased vehicle revenue decreased by nearly $10,000,000 or nearly 12% and gross profit increased by $4,000,000 or about 67% in the Q1. The reduction in international purchased vehicle revenue accompanied by an increase in gross margin was primarily driven by higher ASP insurance vehicles in Germany, which transitioned from purchase contract to a consignment model, coupled with stronger purchase unit margins in the UK. Global facility related costs, which include facility operations, depreciation, amortization and stock based compensation increased $88,000,000 or about 22%. In the U.
S, facility related costs increased $74,000,000 or nearly 22%. During the quarter, we recognized $29,000,000 in incremental costs associated with hurricanes Helene and Melton. This reflects non capitalized costs associated with units sold in the quarter, which is a change from our past cat financial disclosures. There remain $18,000,000 in costs, which were included or sorry, which were incurred and are currently capitalized on the balance sheet. These will be recognized as the remaining cat units are sold.
Excluding the costs associated with the hurricanes, facility related costs per unit increased about 4% from the prior year period. This normalized increase in per unit costs reflects our ongoing investments and expanded operational capacity to support our continued growth. International facility related costs were up $14,000,000 an increase of nearly 24% or approximately 7% on a per unit basis. The increase in per unit cost was primarily due to growth in headcount to support our business in the U. K.
During the quarter, global gross profit was approximately $512,000,000 representing an increase of $48,000,000 or about 10% and our gross margin percent decreased by approximately 82 basis points to 44.7 percent in the quarter. In the U. S, our gross profit increased to $448,000,000 which was over an increase of over $28,000,000 or about 7% and gross margin decreased 260 basis points to 47.2%. Our international gross profit increased to $65,000,000 about $20,000,000 of an increase or 44 percent and gross margin increased over 7.40 basis points to 32.3 percent in the quarter. Turning to our general and administrative expenditures, which were $106,000,000 in the quarter.
This increase of $37,000,000 reflects growth across the investments we have made into growing our specialty equipment sales team, which covers both a geographic and sector specific coverage perspective. We expect to generate meaningful growth in specialty equipment gross transaction value over the next 12 to 24 months as a direct result of this investment. In addition, the investments we're making in our platform services teams and systems, which include our legal, compliance, technology and our finance and people and culture teams have continued with support from 3rd parties. We would expect these expenses to partially recede over the next 12 months and believe the business will be well positioned to generate strong operating leverage in the future. As a result, Q1 GAAP operating income increased by about 3% to over $406,000,000 which includes a modest headwind from the impact of hurricanes Helene and Milton.
And finally, Q1 GAAP net income increased by about 9% to over $362,000,000 or $0.37 per diluted common share. During the quarter, we did benefit from over $13,000,000 of incremental interest income as we have actively invested our cash into treasury securities. And for the quarter, our tax rate was 20%. Turning to our capital structure, as of the end of October, we had over $4,900,000,000 of liquidity, which is compromised of nearly $3,700,000,000 in cash and our capacity under our revolving credit facility. For the quarter, we generated free cash flow of about $246,000,000 reflecting operating cash flow generation of $482,000,000 and capital investments of about $237,000,000 Our strong performance in responding to the hurricanes during the quarter was directly attributable to the investments we've made in our teams, Cat Land portfolio, logistics solutions and technology platform.
We expect to prioritize the deployment of capital into these areas as we strive to continuously improve upon our service levels on behalf of our customers. And with that, Jeff and I would be happy to take some questions.
Conference Moderator: Great. Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer Our first question here is from Bob Labick from CJS Securities. Please go ahead.
Bob Labick, Analyst, CJS Securities: Thanks. Good afternoon and thanks for taking our questions.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Hi Bob.
Bob Labick, Analyst, CJS Securities: Hi. I wanted to follow-up on your earlier discussion on total loss frequency and salvage trends and whatnot. And I think you said 20 one-seven is roughly where total loss frequency is, so it's obviously really returned and gotten high. You've mentioned on prior calls that this is obviously a combination of some of your customers' insurance companies well above that and then therefore some are below that as well. So I was wondering if you could tell us some of the characteristics of the insurance companies that are at the higher end of that or at the lower end.
Are they the big ones are higher and small ones are lower? Is it tech savvy versus old school? How should we think about that? And then maybe more importantly, what are the reasons a company would keep have a lower total loss frequency? Is that intentional or maybe just I'll stop there?
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Got it. Bob, a very fair question and for one for which there isn't a tidy one paragraph answer. The reality is if you even took one insurance carrier and compared them regionally against themselves, I think you'd find meaningful variation even within a given company. Broadly speaking, I think you highlighted a couple of axes on which our insurance clients can vary, including their book of business, where there are certain types of cars, certainly high end luxury automobiles for which some policyholders are less open minded about retaining a heavily damaged and now heavily repaired vehicle after the fact. So for customer service accommodation reasons, sometimes those cars are totaled more readily than they otherwise would be.
In terms of total loss practices, I think that some of the variations we'll see are literally the decision making criteria. So at one end of the spectrum, you'll have folks who, if anything, still have the statutory mindset for lack of a better expression, which is to say that in certain states, if damage exceeds X percent of the intact value of the car, by statute, a carrier must offer the policyholder a total loss at least as an option. And so some carriers to this day still adopt that a 75% threshold or whatever arbitrary threshold for the repair estimate divided by the intact value of the car to determine the absolute line above which all cars are totaled and below which none of the cars are totaled. Others are adopting a more like a more individual underwriting, so to speak, on an individual claim. So a claim comes in, what is the repair cost for this claim?
How long will it take? What will the rental charges be on this repair while it's in the shop? How much can we generate for that car at Copart instead and then make an individual economic decision. Every carrier is somewhere on that spectrum, but as you noted, there is a huge dispersion among insurance carriers today and we certainly provide them with a number of tools to help them make that decision better and help them make that decision faster. I think we've made strides in that regard, but certainly with many years of progress still to come.
Bob Labick, Analyst, CJS Securities: Okay, great. And then just one other question for me. Obviously, continued nice success with the BlueCar initiative there. With the reduction, but kind of near term current reduction in off lease vehicles, which I know you don't participate in really, but how does it impact the supply, if at all, of from your blue car customers because there's less younger cars kind of going into the reconditioning market? Is this impacting the total loss frequency on the blue car area versus just the regular salvage cars?
Or have you seen any impact thus far? Are you expecting any over the next couple of quarters?
Leah Stearns, CFO, Copart: I'll take that one, Bob. Just in terms of how we see off lease volumes impact our non insurance business, it's more impactful to our CDS business, more of our dealer services. It's just the overall volume impact to the wholesale market and how that can influence pricing and unit availability. It's less impactful from a blue car perspective because again, remember, many of those blue car units still have some level of damage. And increasingly, we're working towards being close to having lower damage vehicles flowing through BluePar.
But the off lease units are more impacting the overall unit volume within the wholesale market as a whole, and that can impact pricing and availability for the broader dealer wholesale space.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: While I said for our business, off lease volume is not per se a specific catalyst, it's just one contributor to the supply and demand dynamics for new and used vehicles overall. So it perhaps is somewhat softening used vehicle supply, but that's one variable amidst a large range of them that influence those used car prices.
Bob Labick, Analyst, CJS Securities: Okay, super. Thank you very much. I'll jump back in queue.
Conference Moderator: Our next question is from Chris Bottiglieri from BNP Paribas (OTC:BNPQY). Please go ahead.
Chris Bottiglieri, Analyst, BNP Paribas: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I have 2 for you. The first one I want to ask about is, like, following the question from last quarter on insurance, uninsured motorist. I was wondering, what you've historically seen when there's been changes, like from cat events, we have large hurricanes.
On one hand, do you think the higher insurance costs afterwards could be problematic for insurance participation? On the other hand, it might be a stark reminder that you need comprehensive insurance because your losses go up on those major cats. So just curious if you saw an impact with that?
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Chris, I'd say the data we've seen and I was going to give you the citation here as well, it's from I think the Insurance Institute I believe and they tracked uninsured motorists back to call it the late 1980s plus or minus with an annual figure. The annual figure would be for the country overall. There are other sources from which we derive liability coverage also. And I'd say given the nationwide nature of the data, trying to find that finally parsed question as to whether Hurricane Sandy led to changes in the Northeast or Ian and Milton and Helane caused changes in Florida, Harvey and Texas, that I don't think we can quite see in the data, right. So when I look at 2017, for example, Hurricane Harvey, major event, there's not per se an attributable change to the uninsured motorist population then.
Chris Bottiglieri, Analyst, BNP Paribas: Yes. That makes sense. It's tough. All right. Similar question that's probably equally hard to answer and ask anyway.
If you go back to the Trump tariffs, I know you don't have any direct impact, but I was just curious, your ASP surge then, obviously, a lot of factors with Harvey and I think just changes in security vehicles, but just curious like was there any noticeable impact in your business from the Trump tariff regime in 2018 2019? Did you see impacts on ASP or total loss rates or anything else would it be obvious someone in my seat?
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Not one we could isolate, no. And I think even the natural the nature of your question is probably looking forward what it means for our business and I think there are certainly elements of this that are unknown. I would say that most of the countries I think with which the United States, nor are they particularly meaningful export markets for Copart either. And so could we we could face some contradictory effects here in our own business. You can imagine scenarios in which the value of the cars we sell are certainly higher because they're already landed on U.
S. Shores and so they're now competing against vehicles or parts from overseas that may now face new tariffs. You could also imagine a scenario in which it causes used car values to be higher than they otherwise would be, which could bring back some of the phenomenon we saw in late 2021 2022 in which demand for our services otherwise is suppressed relative to where it otherwise would be, right? Because if ACVs are sky high, our unit economics are better, but total loss frequency can also be softer as a result. How that all plays out over the course of the next 12 months, next 4 years, I don't think we know precisely, but I would say the last time around there was not a meaningful disruption to the business.
Chris Bottiglieri, Analyst, BNP Paribas: Got you. Okay. Thank you.
Conference Moderator: Our next question is from Bret Jordan from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Bret Jordan, Analyst, Jefferies: Hey, good morning or good evening, I guess. Question on the G and A. Lee, I think you said a lot of that $36,000,000 was specialty sales team growth that might recede over the next 12 months. In the shorter term, do you expect to continue to build that up as you're focusing outside the into the incremental markets outside of Salvage? Or are we sort of at a G and A spend level that you see flat lining?
Leah Stearns, CFO, Copart: We'll be disciplined in terms of when we make those investments specifically attributable to your point around the specialty sales team expansion. We're being opportunistic. And so to the extent that we find the right sales team members, we'll bring them on board. We have targeted areas that we're focusing on initially, but if there are opportunistic hires that we can make that makes sense for us, we certainly will pursue that. That G and A investment that we've made, we basically doubled the headcount in our sales team since the acquisition.
And so it's a fairly sizable increase and we're likely to digest that for a period of time, but I don't want to take anything off the table and assume that we won't be pursuing hires to the extent that we find the right folks.
Bret Jordan, Analyst, Jefferies: Okay. And then Jeff, you mentioned that 3 of 4 cars, cat cars in Florida were going via Copart. I guess how does that compare to your market share in Florida? Is it an example that you are just collecting and processing cars faster and they're languishing on competitors' lots? Sort of how does that 3 or 4 cars?
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Yes, I think that'd be probably speculation. I'm not prepared to undertake in the moment. But I think it reflects, yes, our market presence there and it does reflect speed. So I think our ability to process cars this time both retrieve and have the salvage titles issued. To be fair, Florida is one of the more efficient states among the 50 in terms of how quickly they issue salvage titles back to us.
So it's a function of all of those things. But I think there we do perceive a competitive advantage in terms of how quickly we respond to catastrophic events.
Bret Jordan, Analyst, Jefferies: Is Title Express playing a role in that salvage title or is it just the state is more cooperative than others?
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: It can. So as I think we talked about last time, we're now managing the titles for approximately 1,000,000 vehicles per year. So now it's a sizable portion of every of all the titles due process on behalf of insurance carriers. The salvage title issuance is the speed with which the state responds to us once we submit the original title. Our Title Express team determines can help determine how quickly we retrieve that original title.
So their ability to do so, yes, yields a competitive advantage their ability to do so quickly yields an advantage in Florida and elsewhere.
Conference Moderator: Thank you.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Thanks, Brett.
Conference Moderator: Next (LON:NXT) question here is from Alice Lechswind from Baird. Please go ahead.
Alice Lechswind, Analyst, Baird: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I think maybe the off lease discussion kind of touched on this a little bit, but wanted to just hit on the dealer services side again. I think you said it was down just under 1%. Can you confirm that I have that number right?
And then if that's the case, maybe a little bit more detail about what you're seeing in that market as it seems like a slowdown from the kind of prior 4 quarter trend?
Leah Stearns, CFO, Copart: So, Alex, I think what we saw in the Q1 was just a pause in September, some slightly lower volumes related to some specific accounts, but we saw October come back. So I don't think it's a headwind that will persist, but we are obviously watching that closely. I think generally speaking, the wholesale space was a bit soft in September, so it was correlated with what we saw in the broader market.
Alice Lechswind, Analyst, Baird: Great. That's it for me. Thanks.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Thanks, Alex.
Conference Moderator: Next question is from Josh Pokrzy from JPMorgan (NYSE:JPM). Please go ahead.
Josh Pokrzy, Analyst, JPMorgan: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to follow-up on your comments on the shift towards consignment models or model units in Germany. Curious if you could elaborate on what you are seeing in the market there and whether we are arriving at a turning point with a broader shift towards consignment based units from the insurance carriers there? Thanks and I have a follow-up.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Got it. I appreciate the question. I think as you probably know if you followed Copar for a while, it's often a hit that when we enter new markets and enter new seller segments, for example, in the U. K. When we first launched our business, we were largely a principal shop.
So we buy cars from insurance carriers as we prove to the marketplace that we had a liquid auction platform and that in fact the sellers could achieve better results by letting it rise so to speak by selling the cars at Copart auctions. We invariably migrate them over time to an auction like to a pure auction arrangement. And that is now true in the U. K. In the U.
S, the example would be there are certain cars we once would have bought from certain institutional sellers like charities and so forth that over time again eventually migrates to an auction format instead. In Germany, the journey has been much the same. As you might imagine, all of these progressions are gradual, so it's not an overnight snapping of the fingers. But that's certainly the direction in which we want to move the business, the direction in which the business should move as well, right? It's the right economic outcome for us to all for us and our clients to be on the same side of the table rooting for the same outcomes, and that's ultimately why we want to achieve that destination.
So we have made progress. There's still room to go in that respect.
Josh Pokrzy, Analyst, JPMorgan: Understood. That's very helpful. I also noticed an uptick in CapEx spend relative to the run rate over the past couple of years. Could you share any details around the nature of these investments and if we should expect a similar run rate going forward? Just any granularity around the cost buckets, whether it's primarily land oriented or any other investments that you're making?
Thanks.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: I think it's fair to say in this period and in virtually any historical period, capital expenditures for Copart will largely be land and development and in technology. Really those 2 or those three dimensions. And they're a reflection of immediate need and a reflection of growth expectations as well. I wouldn't read a whole lot into quarter to quarter variations. You might imagine there are facilities that we have diligence and have been pursuing, have been negotiating for months, in some cases years, and believe it or not, in some cases decades that finally come to fruition.
And we don't schedule them, right, so to speak. We buy the land when we can, either land we've already leased or land we can immediately use or raw land we then subsequently have to develop before we can use it ourselves. All of those things are folded into that one number in capital expenditures, so it's hard to read a whole lot into it. But we are delighted to invest in land and capacity and in technology. We think it equips us to serve our insurance clients.
As I noted at the beginning of the call, to support their growth, the industry's growth over time and to support industry volatility over time, I think requires us to invest more capital thoughtfully, of course, always diligently, of course, but we're delighted to do it because we think it's necessary to serve our clients.
Josh Pokrzy, Analyst, JPMorgan: Thanks for all the color. Good luck.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Great. Thank you.
Conference Moderator: This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back to CEO, Jeff Liav for any closing comments.
Jeff Liao, CEO, Copart: Yes. Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you next quarter. Have a good afternoon.
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