In the latest earnings call, Standard BioTools Inc. (Ticker: SBT), a company specializing in life sciences and diagnostics, reported a mixed financial performance for the third quarter of 2024. The company, which recently merged with SomaLogic, saw revenue of $45 million for the quarter, marking a 21% increase from the previous quarter but a 5% decline from the same period last year. Year-to-date revenue was $128 million, down 9% from 2023. Despite the downturn, the company achieved significant cost synergies from the merger and improved its non-GAAP operating expenses and adjusted EBITDA.
Key Takeaways
- Q3 revenue was $45 million, up 21% sequentially but down 5% year-over-year.
- The company reported year-to-date revenue of $128 million, a 9% decrease from the previous year.
- Revenue from consumables grew 13% year-over-year, indicating potential growth.
- Instrument revenue declined due to spending constraints, particularly in China.
- Non-GAAP gross margin improved to 57%, with operating expenses down by 24%.
- The company aims for adjusted EBITDA breakeven by 2026 and maintains full-year 2024 revenue guidance of $170 million to $175 million.
- Cash and short-term investments stood at $368 million as of September 30.
Company Outlook
- Standard BioTools is focusing on expanding its portfolio and entering new markets.
- The company is optimistic about its partnership with Illumina (NASDAQ:ILMN) and its potential to broaden the customer base.
- Efforts are being made to improve performance in Europe and other Asian markets outside China.
- The company is not providing specific guidance for 2025 but expects gradual recovery in demand.
Bearish Highlights
- Year-over-year revenue decreased due to a challenging sales environment.
- Instrument sales are particularly weak, with a 42% decline year-over-year.
- Large orders are variable, and the company faces a headwind of $15 million to $20 million from top customers compared to 2023.
Bullish Highlights
- Consumables revenue showed strong growth, benefiting from the expansion of SomaScan authorized sites.
- The company has achieved $80 million in cost synergies ahead of schedule.
- Positive performance in the Americas and ongoing consolidation strategy may contribute to future growth.
Misses
- The company missed year-over-year revenue targets due to decreased instrument sales and overall market challenges.
- Cash burn remains a concern, although it has been reduced significantly.
Q&A Highlights
- CEO Michael Egholm confirmed a reduced cash burn and maintained investments in growth and marketing.
- Management is cautious about the rollout and adoption of new workflows, which may take longer than anticipated.
- There are no significant impacts expected in Q4, with hopes for recovery in 2025.
Standard BioTools Inc. is navigating a challenging market environment while continuing to streamline operations and focus on long-term growth strategies. The company's leadership remains committed to delivering value to shareholders as it adapts to current market conditions and works towards achieving profitability.
InvestingPro Insights
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These growth figures align with the company's reported increase in consumables revenue and suggest potential for future expansion. However, it's important to note that SBT is currently operating at a loss, with an adjusted operating income of -$113.14 million over the last twelve months. This is consistent with the company's focus on achieving adjusted EBITDA breakeven by 2026, as mentioned in the earnings call.
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Full transcript - Standard Biotools Inc (LAB) Q3 2024:
Operator: Good day and welcome to the Standard BioTools Inc Third Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. After today’s presentation, There will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over David Holmes of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
David Holmes: Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Standard BioTools' third quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Leading the call today is Michael Egholm, President and Chief Executive Officer and Alex Kim, Chief Operating Officer and interim-Chief Financial Officer. At the close of market today, Standard BioTools released its financial results for the quarter ended September 30, 2024. During the call, we will review our results and provide an update on our financial and operational performance, 2024 outlook, market trends and strategic initiatives. During the call, we will be making forward-looking statements about events and circumstances that have not yet occurred, including plans and projections of our business, our outlook for 2024 and future financial results, market trends and opportunities and our expectations related to the combined operations with SomaLogic, including potential synergies and our business outlook for the combined company. These statements are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties that may cause actual events or results to differ materially from current circumstances. The forward-looking statements on this call are based on information currently available to us and we disclaim any obligation to update these statements, except as may be required by law. During the call, we will also present some financial information on a non-GAAP basis. We believe these non-GAAP financial measures are useful in evaluating our core performance and as a baseline for assessing the future earnings potential of the company. We use these non-GAAP measures in our own evaluation of continuing operating performance. We encourage you to carefully consider our results on a GAAP and non-GAAP basis. The reconciliation between non-GAAP measures and their GAAP equivalents are provided in the tables accompanying today's press release and as appendix to today's presentation slides. Please note that management will be referring to a slide presentation including updated supplement financial information within the webcast today. Following prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. Today's slide presentation along with the replay of the webcast, will be available on the investor section of our website. I would now like to turn the call over to Michael Egholm, President and CEO of Standard BioTools. Michael.
Michael Egholm: Thank you, David, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. Before we discuss our quarterly results, I want to welcome Alex Kim to the call who is acting CFO and will be covering our financial performance for the third quarter 2024. Alex has been with Standard BioTool since its inception, instrumental to its founding and fundamental to its growth as a co-founder, Chief Operating Officer, Alex brings to the CFO role, a deep understanding of our business and seasoned operational acumen home from a decade at Danaher (NYSE:DHR). In addition, Sean Mackay, our Chief Business Officer, who now heads our organic and inorganic growth efforts is joining the call and will be available to answer questions. With that, let's discuss our results of which I'll be speaking to pro-forma numbers. In the third quarter, we deliver $45 million in revenue, sequentially up 21% from last quarter, but down 5% year-over-year, and $128 million in revenue year to date, which is down 9% versus 2023. From last quarter to this one, the industry backdrop remains challenged with customer budgets for CapEx equipment tight and purchasing behaviors conservative. Operating in a dynamic environment like this one requires deep operational discipline and continuous focus on improvement. Against these metrics the team delivered. We met our adjusted revenue targets and accelerated operational efficiency. Our team is now three quarters into the SomaLogic integration and a full year ahead on cost reduction, having already operationalized and expected $80 million synergies. While the savings are expected to be fully realized in 2025, we have already seen a 24% year-over-year reduction in non-GAAP operating expenses year to date, and a 50% improvement in adjusted EBITDA in the quarter. Our operating system, Standard BioTools business system adjusted SBS has become deeply embedded in the new businesses. Examples of the power of SBS include improved forecasting, improved delivery performance and an inherent focus on quality. For example, we now have an industry leading on time delivery for products and services of 98% versus 78% two years ago for legacy Standard BioTools. We also have reduced complaints per installed base for our highest selling instrument, more than four-fold in the same period. This allows our customers to be focused on their exciting research with less downtime and our sales force to be focused on generating new leads. We believe we can still be even more efficient and expect you will see the benefit of our continuous improvement culture in both our bottom and top line going forward. With these results and with full awareness of the current operating environment, we are reiterating our full year 2024 revenue guidance in the previously communicated range of $170 million to $175 million, with $368 million in cash and short-term investment as of September 30th. We are well capitalized to advance our strategic vision of building a scaled and profitable life science company. At Standard BioTools, we're building a top tier life science company, leveraging consolidation to all the sectors innovation, bottleneck and inability to scale. Our goal is to become the preferred industry partner to customers and to innovators. We are focused on providing a portfolio of consumables, instruments and services which share a platform that drives reliability, performance, and profitability for stakeholders and shareholders alike. We recognize the importance of achieving our profitability objectives and we are targeting adjusted EBITDA break even for the full year 2026, which will further position the company to partner and consolidate a fragmented and capital constrained industry. With a high performance culture, streamlined infrastructure team of season operators and access to capital, we are positioned to execute this vision. However, it is early in our journey, if not just the first innings and we are far from done and far from optimized but we are on our way. We have a clear strategy and a world class team operating in one of the most challenged environments, which opens new opportunities for us. Turning to results, our revenue mix in the third quarter was split between lab services at 41%, instrument field services at 14%, instruments at 12% and consumables at 31%. Our sequential quarter-over-quarter revenue growth was driven by our service offerings, which is date chiefly so much against services. We saw a bounce back from last quarters result from favorable timing from a few large account. To this end, we are pushing hard to expand our overall customer mix and then currently outside our top five SomaScan customers, SomaScan’s service revenue route double-digit in the quarter year-over-year. One component our strategy is to expand our footprint beyond our core lab located in boulder and deeper into our authorized SomaScan sites. In the quarter, one of these sites we added was a major U.S. based bio farm customer, which should help us expand that customers use of our product. Another diversifier to our service revenue is our own mix as a service offering, which leverages all of our products. SomaScan, site of an imaging mass cytometry and future platforms developed, acquired or partnered. This offering expands our assay lab services revenue stream and provides customers premium data with clinical research support. This will increase adoption while avoiding the capital budget constraints currently facing the broader biopharma market. Turning to our instrument business, which is down year-over-year by 42%, with the biggest impact coming from our higher price mass cytometry instrument. The industry headwinds have not cleared and we're working hard with our customers to unlock budgets and adjust to their new purchasing behaviors where we can. Our genomics business, including fluidic instruments, consumables in OEM while down year-over-year is contribution margin positive and it's a case study of the value the SBS culture. SBS culture can create a lean profitable business unit with upside potential. Hence, we are working on additional OEM relationships and identifying new niche growth opportunities, which leverages our infrastructure and which will be accretive to the bottom line. Consumable is and remains our most attractive product margin profile and in the industry with dark clouds is a continued bright growing spot in our business. This revenue stream was up 13% year-over-year in the quarter. Consumables are the most attractive products in the industry and at the top of our product pyramid and a top strategic focus for us both organically and inorganically. A major example of what we can do with consumables is the distributed SomaScan solution on Illumina sequencing platform, which we believe is becoming with increasing clarity the next big thing in multi-omics and is an exciting new growth vector for the company. SomaScan is a powerful and competitively differentiated platform with tremendous upside potential and recent studies confirmed the assays unique ability to scale with precision. With this alternative distributed solution, we can further unlock our potential to be supplying the leading multi-omic solution. Our partnership remains on track with full commercial release in the first half of 2025, democratizing the SomaScan assay on Illumina’s installed base of more than 2,000 oversea instruments. Having now spent time with the team, the technology and customers, it is clear to us that the SOMAmer technology has more headroom and much more commercial potential than we originally invented. We are exploring new ways to leverage the technology and today we announced the launch of single SOMAmer agent as a minimal viable product offering, making each of the 11,000 individuals SOMAmers available for purchase. This is a highly differentiated solution in an all important and large protein range in end market. This meets an unmet need for protein identification and quantification and inside the right true voice of customer process. We'll proceed with care to ensure the outmost quality of our product and prepare for the full product launch in the future. As we look to the next several quarters and beyond, we believe we are well equipped to execute our vision for Standard BioTools where the business of delivering solutions to our customers, not just focusing on individual application as those can evolve over time. What's important is that we have strong exposure to attractive end markets today, particularly in academia and pharma as we continue to strategically allocate capital to bolster our portfolio, we will expand into other attractive markets. We have an experienced leadership team committed to our continuous improvements initiatives with a track record of driving growth, expanding growth margins, and reducing operating costs. The current market environment is offering many unique opportunities and we're actively assessing how to accelerate our consolidation thesis. Our store is now complete and we remain focused on scaling the business, driving end market diversification, evolving to a higher margin consumable offerings and delivering long-term shareholder value. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Alex. Alex.
Alex Kim: Thank you Michael, and thank you all for joining our call today. I'm honored to be representing Standard BioTools on this call as an acting CFO. As Michael said, I've been with the company since the inception and I've been happy to jump into the role as CFO, bringing my knowledge and experience as a business leader and operator to the finance function. I will take us through our financial results in more detail and provide additional context. I want to remind you that on an as reported basis, our third quarter and year-to-date 2024 results include the combined operations of Standard BioTools and SomaLogic since the close of the merger on January 5th of this year, while the same periods in 2023 include the financial results of the legacy Standard BioTools business only. Therefore, for comparative purposes, we think it's much more meaningful to look at the results of both businesses combined. And so as I speak to our Q3 financial results, my commentary will focus on the performer combined results of operations for both Standard BioTools and SomaLogic for 2023 and 2024. Please do refer to today's press release and the appendix to our investor deck for more information, including a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures that I will be discussing here. Starting with revenue on Slide 9. Our third quarter came in at $45 million down 5% year-over-year and year-to-date revenue was $128 million down 9% year-over-year. Sequentially, our third quarter revenue increased 21% versus the second quarter. Breaking revenue down further, consumables revenue was $14 million in the third quarter, up 13% year-over-year, and $45 million year-to-date, up 21% compared to 2023. Our consumables growth particularly benefited from continued expansion in our SomaScan authorized sites and the Illumina Early Access program. As we've discussed in the past, we believe having distributed solutions for SomaScan is critical to compete and establish market leadership. We see this ability to supply more new sites worldwide as highly complimentary to our existing lab services business. Instruments revenue was just under $6 million in the third quarter, down 42% year-over-year and just under $20 million year-to-date, down 28% compared to 2023. This was largely driven by the external capital spending constraints in the life sciences sector as well as extended weakness we're seeing in China. This is elongating our sales cycle, delaying orders as customer secure funding but we are encouraged as our funnel continues to grow and particularly with our IMC Spatial Biology platform. Lab services revenue was $18 million in the third quarter, up over 1% year-over-year, and $41 million year-to-date, down 23% compared to 2023. The third quarter benefited from favorable timing from a few large customer projects alongside new SomaScan customers continuing to commit to the platform. Historically, our SomaScan lab services business has been heavily reliant on a few large customers for the majority of our revenue. And while our year-to-date performance has been impacted by fewer projects from these top customers, we are encouraged by the broadening of the customer base. Beyond our largest customers, our lab services business delivered double-digit revenue growth year-to-date, positioning us well as we continue to expand and diversify our base. Field services revenue was just over $6 million in the third quarter, down 4% year-over-year, and $19 million year-to-date flat compared to 2023. Field services revenue was impacted by lower installation services on fewer instrument sales, offset by continued maintenance contracts. By our application segments, our proteomics business, which includes our SomaScan, CyTOF and IMC product lines was 77% of our revenue and was down 4% for the quarter and down 10% year-to-date, while our genomics business represented by our Biomark product line was 23% of revenue and was down 8% for the quarter and down 7% year-to-date. Moving on to our operating performance on Slide 10, our non-GAAP gross margin on a pro-forma combined basis was 57% in the third quarter versus 52% year-over-year, and 53% year to date compared to 52% in 2023. A third quarter was positively impacted by a shift in revenue mix driven by higher consumables relative to instruments as well as by underlying improved quality yield, lower scrap and lower warranty costs. There are lingering gross margin headwinds and one-time costs that we continue to navigate through the rest of this year, but we are encouraged by the positive gross margin impact of our SBS activities to reduce waste and improve quality as well as our ability to continue to drive gross margin expansion over the long run. Moving to our operating expenses on Slide 11, our non-GAAP operating expenses on our pro-forma basis was $40 million in the third quarter versus $53 million last year, which is a 24% year over year reduction and $137 million year-to-date versus $176 million in 2023, which is a 22% reduction. Sequentially from quarter two, we delivered a 17% reduction. Our third quarter improvement is a result of the on ongoing realization of merger cost synergies that we've spoken of before, as well as a one-time benefit from reduction in our annual bonus accrual in line with our current full year expectations. There will still be a few one-timers, restructuring and integration costs and timing of year end marketing investments that will come across in quarter four, but we head into 2025 with the full $80 million in target synergies identified and at a run rate of $170 million non-GAAP annualized operating expenses versus our 2023 first half pro-forma annualized operating expenses of approximately $250 million. On Slide 12, our adjusted EBITDA was a $14 million loss in the third quarter compared to a $28 million loss last year, which is a 50% year-over-year reduction and a $69 million loss year-to-date versus $102 million loss in 2023, which is a 32% reduction. This brings me to cash on Slide 13, we ended the third quarter with about $368 million in cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash and short term investments. A total cash burn was $28 million in the third quarter versus $68 million in the second quarter, representing a 58% reduction. This includes about $5 million for transaction, restructuring and integration costs. Excluding the impact of these items, our adjusted cash burn was about $21 million, representing a 23% reduction versus the second quarter adjusted cash burn of $28 million. We are beginning to see material reductions in our cash burn coming through as a result of our restructuring efforts and the ongoing realization of merger cost synergies and we are well positioned with our strategic plan and our balance sheet to support the growth of our business to cash flow break even. As we look to the fourth quarter, as Michael said, we are reiterating our full year revenue guidance of $170 million to $175 million. To remind you, our quarterly results can be lumpy as a few instruments and or lab services projects can move from one quarter to another. And as I've mentioned, we're still working through some cost headwinds as we end the year. However, over the long run, we are driving strategic initiatives to more reoccurring consumables revenue and we are committed to delivering long-term profitable revenue growth. Back to you, Michael.
Michael Egholm: Thanks, Alex. We thank you all for your continued support as we navigate these tough end markets. We look forward to seeing many of you at the UBS Global Healthcare Conference on November 12th in Ranchers Palace, California and at the Jeff London Hill Cap Conference on November 19. And now I hand the call back to Wyatt for Q&A. Wyatt?
Operator: [Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Dan Brennan with TD (TSX:TD) Cowen.
Unidentified Analyst: This is [Kyle] on for Dan. I was just wondering to start, if maybe you could quantify what percent of assay services revenue in 3Q was timing based? Is there a way you can quantify that?
Michael Egholm: What we had said before. As we had talked about before, our SomaScan services have historically relied on a few large customers like five or so. And as Alex pointed out, outside that we see -- outside those we see double-digit growth in the SomaScan asset services, which see as an encouraging sign. We had favorable timing in Q3, an unfavorable in Q2, 30 year for those five large customers, we have a hefty headwind on the order of $15 million to $20 million as we shared before. So it's really encouraging to see that the broadening of the SomaScan as a service businesses. And then just remind everyone it is, these large projects are highly dependent on getting the PO and then getting the samples and getting it all run. So the quarter-to-quarter timing can push numbers one way or another, but if take a step back, we like where this business is headed.
Unidentified Analyst: And then maybe just on the guide, you reiterate your guide $170 million to $175 million for the year. The midpoint of that I think for Q4 implies maybe flat to a little bit down Q-over-Q. Are you expecting any year end budget flush or anything, any year end spending dynamics that are any different from what you saw in 3Q?
Michael Egholm: We don't, but it would be really nice if it came, so we do build in a little bit of an uptick on instruments here in Q4, but we're not relying on a market recovery or new budgets becoming available. Anything to add to that, Alex?
Alex Kim: I think that was a good summary. We continue to actively work our funnel and we feel comfortable where our funnel is at to hit the guidance that we've shared with you here. As we've mentioned before, any quarter can be impacted as an instrument and or a large service project may shift from one quarter or another. But we have a funnel that we feel comfortable with the guide that we've provided.
Operator: And the next question comes from Matt Stanton with Jefferies.
Matt Stanton: Maybe to pick up there on the instrument side, you know, clearly kind of their main week for you guys in the broader industry. Can you talk a little bit more about if you're starting to see any green shoots or final improvement, when could we start to see maybe demand improve, not just easy comps. And you called out China, can you just unpack a bit more what's going on over there in China and when we could potentially see things improve over there? Is it really tied to stimulus dollars starting to flow?
Michael Egholm: And like if you just sort of zoom out a little bit, instruments have down year-to-date 28% versus last year where we were up 46%. And I think, so largely in line with our peers, we are selling high cost instruments that still work in niches. So we are in a tough environment here, as Alex alluded to our funnels are a building, which we see as an encouraging sign. And for specifically for China, our team are talking about it, looking a little better but we don't expect it to flow through in Q4. Hopefully it will be a tailwind in 2025. Historically, up until the last quarter, China has been a bright spot for us and we're certainly looking forward to China growth coming back and then may maybe on green shoots. We are seeing VC money flowing into biotech again, and we are beginning to see more leads being generated there but it is not translated into dollars to us yet. So cautious optimism, I would characterize it as.
Matt Stanton: That's helpful. And then maybe one on the cost side, a lot of really good progress there. You called out in your script kind of certain growth areas within multi-omics the launch of single Soma or mix as a service. Some of the items, you talked on the strategy update back in May. So can you talk a little bit more about the areas you're investing in, some of those launches and I think on the single Soma launch you talked about kind of a limited launch and then a broader launch later. So any finer point you can talk about just in terms of rolling that product out or customers you'll be targeting, what you tend to consider a successful launch if we look out 12 to 18 months from now.
Michael Egholm: Yes, so we are taking out $80 million now, and I want to thank my team for doing all the heavy lifting here. So we're really, really well set up with significantly reduced cash burn. We are protecting our growth in like our growth investments and we are protecting investments in sales and marketing as a backdrop. And so to that end we launched the individual SOMA on what we call a minimal viable product, but it's minimal viable product because we have not shipped individual reagents before for revenue. So as a whole infrastructure that's set up and there's limited support for the number of applications that you can use them for. And then we do not have an E based site that eventually will be there -- where will be click on a protein and then get the individual SOMAmers, and to that end, it's limited in that we are rolled it out to all our existing customers, and then we will do a broader launch. Yet when we have have fixed all that infrastructure, and again, we are still investing heavily in ID, because we believe in for our technologies. There's a long runway ahead.
Matt Stanton: Then maybe understanding the backdrop remains pretty fluid out there. I mean, if you start to think about ‘25, back half of this year, you're kind of at $45 million a quarter. Call it, if you annualize that we're at $180 million, any kind of directional commentary you willing to provide? As we start to think about ‘25, obviously instruments have easy comps, you have Illumina ramping. We think about a kinda $180 million base and some growth that, but any finer point you're willing to put on that as we start to dial in our models for next year.
Michael Egholm: I'll let Alex handle that one.
Alex Kim: Yes. Not at this time. We're not providing guidance on 2025 yet. Our focus is very much on Q4 and closing out this year strong. We'll come back to you in the future with our updated view and on 2025 later.
Michael Egholm: Yes, I'll just say like, so our -- we really, our guidance of $170 million to $175 million, it remains a challenging environment and then on top of a business where you can get a big order that can sway one way or the order. As for ‘25, we are -- as you have heard repeatedly, we're very encouraged by our relationship with Illumina, which we think in the long-term we get access to a much, much broader customer base. We believe we have the best solution out there. It's the only solution so far that can scale with precision, currently 10,000 proteins. So long-term, really good. I've been doing this for 30 years and rollouts always and the adoption of new workflows always take longer than you want. I wouldn't owe index on the Illumina launch or impact on next year for the out years. We're certainly expecting healthy growth.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Paul Knight with KeyBanc.
Unidentified Analyst: Hi, this is [Lucas] on for Paul Knight at KeyBanc. It sounds like you recognized revenue from some of those projects that got pushed out last quarter. Would you say that all of that work is behind you now or are there some delayed projects that'll actually get recognized still here in Q4?
Michael Egholm: Yes. The way I I would characterize it is we had favorable timing this year as we said in the script and unfavorable timing last year. It's not a matter of recognition per se as I said from our top five customers we have a $15 million, $20 million headwind year-over-year, not because they're not spending on the committed to the technology. It's just we had a very favorable 2023. So that's the backdrop. What I would point to as we also talked about in the script, is we have rigorous application of SBS now across the organization. And so we have much better visibility to when these large projects where we get the PO and when we can get the samples and when we can get them, get them run.
Unidentified Analyst: I guess turning over to the instrument side of the equation, obviously you saw weakness in China, but what were you seeing in markets outside of China?
Alex Kim: We are doing well in the Americas, the rest of Asia, like particular Japan and Korea, it's been a tough backdrop for a long time, sort of macroeconomics and in Europe we just installed a new leader there and we'll focus on rebuilding the funnels there.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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