Valmont Industries (NYSE:VMI) revealed its second-quarter 2024 results, showcasing a commitment to innovation and service excellence. The company reported an expansion in operating margins to 14.2% and a notable increase in diluted earnings per share to $4.91. Despite experiencing lower sales in the Infrastructure segment due to product mix shifts and decreased telecom and solar volumes, Valmont Industries is taking strategic action to enhance profitability.
The Agriculture segment witnessed a modest uptick in North American sales, attributed to a rise in demand for replacement equipment after severe storms. However, international sales softened, particularly in Brazil. Valmont's long-term growth strategy is geared towards capitalizing on utility, transportation, and solar industry trends.
They also emphasized their successful sustainability initiatives, having surpassed environmental targets. Financially, the company reported $1 billion in net sales, an operating income increase to $147.3 million, and an improved operating margin. Year-over-year, diluted earnings per share rose by 16.6%. Despite a predicted sales decline of 1.5% to 3.5% for 2024, Valmont Industries has raised its earnings outlook and remains focused on managing costs, cash flow, and strategic capital allocation.
Key Takeaways
- Operating margins expanded to 14.2%, with diluted earnings per share increasing to $4.91.
- Infrastructure segment sales declined due to a shift in product mix and lower telecom and solar volumes.
- Agriculture segment sales in North America rose slightly, while international sales, especially in Brazil, decreased.
- Valmont is positioning for growth in utility, transportation, and solar industries.
- Net sales held steady at $1 billion; operating income rose to $147.3 million.
- 2024 outlook predicts sales decline of 1.5% to 3.5%, with a revised earnings per share forecast of $16.50 to $17.30.
Company Outlook
- Valmont expects a 2024 sales decline of 1.5% to 3.5% due to strategic adjustments in the solar product line and the impact of steel index deflation.
- Infrastructure sales are anticipated to be flat or increase up to 1.5%.
- Agriculture sales are projected to decrease between 10% and 15%.
Bearish Highlights
- Lower volumes in the telecommunications and solar sectors reported due to project delays.
- Decreased international sales in the agriculture sector, particularly in Brazil, due to lower grain prices and normalizing backlog levels.
Bullish Highlights
- Improved commercial execution, lower costs of goods sold, and reduced expenses drove an increase in operating income to $133.6 million.
- Strong demand for replacement agriculture equipment in North America.
- Strategic investments in manufacturing facilities lead to higher margin products.
Misses
- Operating income for agriculture decreased to $40 million, affected by lower volumes and pricing in Brazil.
Q&A Highlights
- CEO Avner Applbaum emphasized the company's pricing leadership and strategy, with no broad-based pricing reductions expected.
- Tim Francis expects the cost of steel to align with contractual deflation in the utility structure business.
- Strong market demand for the Infrastructure business is anticipated, with margins expected to improve.
- Focus on strategic M&A opportunities that align with core competencies and markets.
- The company is optimizing its acquisition pipeline and utilizing strong earnings and cash flows for investments.
- Valmont discussed the impact of distribution and substation sales on overall revenue and expressed optimism about growth in transmission, distribution, and substations.
- Prospera's integration into the business and tech organization aims to provide value to growers through irrigated acres and pivot technology offerings.
- The company is leveraging Prospera's AI and machine learning talent across other business aspects.
Valmont Industries continues to navigate market shifts with a strong focus on innovation, operational excellence, and strategic investments. The company's initiatives in sustainability and ESG, coupled with a robust financial performance, position it to pursue growth opportunities and maintain a strong market presence.
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Full transcript - Valmont Industries Inc (VMI) Q2 2024:
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Valmont Industries Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Renee Campbell, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasurer. Thank you. You may begin.
Renee Campbell: Thank you and good morning. Welcome to Valmont Industries second quarter 2024 earnings call. With me today are Avner Applbaum, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Tim Francis, Interim Chief Financial Officer. This morning, Avner will provide a summary of our second quarter results, current market dynamics and strategic priorities. Tim will review our second quarter financial performance and provide our updated outlook and indications for the year with closing remarks from Avner. This will be followed by Q&A. A live webcast of the presentation will accompany today's call and is available for download from the webcast or on the Investors site at valmont.com. A replay will be available on our website later this morning. Please note that this call is subject to our disclosure on forward-looking statements, which applies to today's discussion is outlined on Slide 3 of the presentation and will be read in full at the end of today's call. Finally, to stay updated with Valmont's latest news releases and information, please sign up for email alerts on our Investors site. We also invite you to follow Valmont and our brands on the social media channels linked on our website. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Avner.
Avner Applbaum: Thank you, Renee. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Beginning on Slide 5, our second quarter results reflect the commitment of our 11,000 employees worldwide to delivering exceptional value through innovation, quality and service. Their relentless dedication to customer satisfaction, operational excellence and cost management has enhanced profitability and fostered resilience in dynamic market conditions. As a result, we expanded operating margins to 14.2%, up 140 basis points over last year, with diluted earnings per share growing to $4.91. I'm pleased with the progress we're making in delivering stronger results even on comparable sales. Infrastructure segment sales were lower year-over-year. While volumes in transmission, distribution and substation, which we refer to as utility, were higher, we produced a greater mix of distribution and substation products this quarter to accommodate our customers. This shift, along with lower telecom and solar volumes and the effect of a lower steel index on price impacted sales growth. While a mix change can affect top line growth in any given quarter, we always aim to enhance profitability and return on invested capital. By focusing on footprint flexibility and leveraging strong market demand, we are steadily expanding and adjusting our factory output to meet evolving customer needs. Additionally, we continue strategic pricing actions to capture the value we provide. Agriculture segment sales were slightly higher this quarter. In North America, severe storm events in May and June, primarily in the Midwest and Southern U.S., drove strong demand for replacement equipment. During this summer of exceptionally severe weather, our team has shown an outstanding ability to quickly build and deliver equipment during the critical growing season. This responsiveness ensures our dealer and growers receive essential support precisely when they need it most. In international markets, continuing market softness in Brazil pressured growth this quarter. Alternatively, we're seeing good momentum in our Middle East project business with a strong multi-year pipeline in the region. Overall, I'm encouraged by our ability to execute and drive profitability. Our success demonstrates the strong core capabilities shared across our organization and the value-creation potential enabled by the Valmont business model. Turning to Slide 6 for current market dynamics and long-term megatrends for Infrastructure business. Starting with utility. Industry CapEx spending remains elevated. We're at the beginning of a multi-year energy transition marked by significant changes in both energy consumption and generation. Valmont products play a crucial role in connecting renewable energy sources to the grid and supplying more electricity to address load growth. Additionally, aging infrastructure require upgrades to create greater resiliency, increasing the demand for our steel, concrete and hybrid products. The outlook for transportation remains strong, driven by a national priority to upgrade and expand critical infrastructure. We expect IIJA funding to provide a solid tailwind to project financing for years to come despite labor shortages and funding delays slowing project build-outs in the near term. Commercial lighting markets remain muted but are expected to recover with single-family housing starts. As we've previously discussed, telecom carriers have scaled their CapEx plans and are likely to maintain more normalized spending levels following a period of record investment. The increasing demand for data due to advanced technology and connected devices requires a robust and widespread network infrastructure. In solar, this market remains attractive with strong demand drivers. Solar continues to be the lowest-cost energy solution supporting renewable energy objectives. We have made adjustments to our commercial strategies to enhance the profitability of this business, which I will highlight later in the call. Finally, our coatings business continues to align with GDP trends while supporting our internal production. These multi-year infrastructure megatrends are also driving demand for the superior corrosion protection providing by zinc galvanizing. Turning to Slide 7 for current market dynamics and long-term megatrends for the Agriculture business. While North American order rates trended higher this quarter due to the recent storm events, grower sentiment in the U.S. remains muted due to the expected decline in net farm income this year and the downward trend in grain prices. International market demand is mixed. In Brazil, we are seeing continued soft demand as farm income remains pressured by lower grain prices. The recent renewal of the tsunami financing program reaffirms the Brazilian government support for agriculture with favorable irrigation loans to growers. While we anticipate continued market softness in the near term, Brazil remains a key part of our long-term growth strategy. The pivot provides a compelling return on investment made even stronger by the region's potential for a third growing season. The international project pipeline remains strong and provides a multi-year line of sight. Our current project in Egypt and the $50 million in Middle East projects we announced last quarter remain on track. There is a rising demand to ensure food security globally, a challenge intensified with growing populations and geopolitical conflicts. With our manufacturing footprint, strong dealer network and advanced technology solutions, we can deliver on these large projects which are essential to our global growth strategy. Valmont's market-leading products and technology solutions improve productivity on the farm by optimizing resources such as water, labor and other input costs. We are well-positioned to build on our proven track record of successfully meeting growers' needs. To summarize, in both segments, our outlook for sustained long-term growth remains strong despite short-term demand headwinds in some of our markets. These multi-year megatrends drive demand and provide a solid foundation for future growth. We are positioning Valmont to capitalize on these trends while delivering long-term shareholder value. Turning to Slide 8. The Valmont business model defines our approach to maximize value creation. Executing these strategic focus areas while upholding our core values strengthens my confidence in our ability to outperform our served markets. Since stepping into the CEO role last year, I've worked with our team to refine our strategy and concentrate growth on areas that align with our core competencies. By focusing on customer needs, we aim to enhance value and returns while providing the best support. We're beginning to see benefit of this refined strategy and the actions we're taking to align our team accordingly. For example, last fall, we took steps to streamline the organization to create a more efficient and effective structure while reducing costs. We are now more nimble and better able to make decisions while supporting our operations. The next step is refocusing our commercial and operational team on opportunities that deliver the greatest value and drive the highest return. This is captured by the phrases commercial execution and operational excellence. We saw benefits from this refocus in utility this quarter, as the team produced a greater mix of distribution and substation structures, enhancing margins while accommodating our customers. By allocating resources more effectively, we expect to achieve further efficiencies as we advance the strategy. Another great example is the actions we're taking in our solar business. We are exiting certain low-margin solar projects as we focus on enhancing profitability and return on invested capital. While this approach will impact revenue growth this year, we believe it further enhances our competitiveness and drives sustained growth towards our profitability targets. We are excited about the future of our solar business. By building on our success and distributed generation, we are driving geographic expansion supported by a strong global organizational structure. We are dedicated to advancing industry standards and will continue investing to deliver innovative solutions that meet our customer needs. Turning to Slide 9. Sustainability is a core element of who we are and is embodied in our promise of conserving resources and improving lives. Last month, we published our 9th Sustainability Report. We have demonstrated our commitment to our 2025 environmental goals by surpassing three of our four stated targets. ESG remains a core focus of ours as we view it as fundamental to good business practices. It creates efficiencies and cost savings, improves safety, manages risk and fosters innovation. I'm pleased to report notable improvement in our 2023 safety metrics as a safe and engaged workforce is our highest priority. The report also features several product case studies that demonstrate our innovative solutions addressing resource challenges for our customers. We've been recognized externally for our ESG initiative, showcasing our global team's dedication to these priorities. To summarize, I am proud of our strong results. We are managing what we can and have ambitious plans to enhance our competitive position and drive profitable growth. Our balance sheet is stronger as earnings and working capital management have resulted in good cash generation supporting our capital allocation strategy. Our outlook is positive as we build a sustainable, high-performance culture that supports our growth objectives. Now, I'll turn it over to Tim for our second quarter financial review and an updated 2024 outlook.
Tim Francis: Thank you, Avner, and good morning everyone. Turning to Slide 11 and second quarter results. Net sales of $1 billion were similar to last year. Operating income increased 10.2% to $147.3 million and operating margins improved to 14.2% of net sales. Diluted earnings per share of $4.91, increased 16.6% year-over-year. This includes a tax benefit of approximately $3 million or $0.15 per share due to the reduction of a valuation allowance on a tax loss carryforward in a foreign subsidiary. The steps we implemented to control expenses and reduce our cost structure continue to have a favorable impact on our profitability. Turning to the segments in Slide 12, Infrastructure sales of $762.7 million decreased 1% year-over-year. We were pleased with higher volumes in utility even as the mix this quarter shifted to more distribution and substation structures. Also, average selling prices for utility products were slightly higher year-over-year. Through pricing excellence, our commercial team secured projects at pricing levels that offset the contractual price impact from steel index deflation. Telecommunications volumes were lower this quarter, but we do not expect any further year-over-year decline in telecom sales for the rest of the year. Solar volumes were also lower due to project timing. Operating income increased to $133.6 million, or 17.6% of net sales. Operating margin improvement was driven by improved commercial execution including pricing strategies, lower cost of goods sold due to declining steel costs and reduced SG&A expenses. We have begun to realize the benefits from strategic investments in our manufacturing facilities, enabling us to increase production of higher-margin products. Moving to Slide 13, Agriculture sales of $281.7 million grew slightly year-over-year. In North America, irrigation equipment volumes were significantly higher, driven by a large increase in replacement sales due to severe weather impacts. Average irrigation selling prices were lower compared to last year, primarily due to targeted regional pricing actions. International sales decreased, primarily driven by significantly lower sales in Brazil due to normalizing backlog levels and lower grain prices impacting growers' buying behavior. The lower sales were partially offset by higher Middle East projects and the contribution from HR Products acquisition. Operating income decreased to $40 million, or 14.3% of net sales. The benefit of reduced SG&A expenses was more than offset by the impact of lower volumes and pricing in Brazil. Turning to cash flows and liquidity on Slide 14. Second quarter operating cash flows were $130.8 million, nearly 50% higher than the second quarter of 2023 and we ended the quarter with approximately $163 million in cash. We expect strong cash flows throughout 2024 through earnings growth and diligent working capital management. During the quarter, we reduced borrowings on our revolving line of credit by $90 million and total debt to adjusted EBITDA of 1.7 times is within our desired range of 1.5 times to 2.5 times. Our cash balances, available credit and flexible balance sheet provide us ample liquidity to execute our capital allocation strategy. Turning to Slide 15, for a summary of capital deployment. Year-to-date capital spending was $33.3 million. Our Infrastructure operations team is steadily making progress on approved capital projects to expand our production capacity. Our acquisition strategy is sharply focused on natural adjacencies to our core capabilities that would enhance our portfolio or expand our addressable markets. Our capital deployment approach balances growth investments with returning cash to shareholders. Year-to-date, we returned approximately $40 million of capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Over the past year, including our $120 million accelerated share repurchase program, we have returned approximately $275 million to shareholders through dividends and repurchases. I will now share our updated 2024 outlook, as shown on Slide 16. We are revising our net sales outlook to a sales decline between 1.5% to 3.5% from prior year. This reflects a strategic commercial adjustment we are making in our solar product line that will impact full year sales but has minimal effect on the profitability of the total segment. Additionally, the contractual price impact from steel index deflation is leading us to adjust our expected increase in utility sales downward from previous outlook assumptions. As a result of these two factors, full year Infrastructure sales are now expected to be between flat to up 1.5% compared to prior year. In Agriculture, our outlook remains unchanged with segment sales expected to be down between 10% and 15% compared to prior year. In North America, despite the additional storm-related sales this quarter, we do not expect an improvement in our sales outlook this year due to current U.S. farm income projections and recent downward trends in grain prices. We also expect continued market softness in Brazil. We remain focused on pricing excellence and increasing adoption of our technology solutions. Even with the downward revision to our sales projection, we are increasing our outlook for diluted earnings per share to a range of $16.50 to $17.30. We also expect earnings per share for the second half of 2024 to be below first-half results. I'd like to take a moment and expand on that. In Infrastructure, we anticipate full year gross profit margins to improve compared to 2023, although they may not reach the levels seen in the first half of this year because steel costs will be more aligned with the contractual steel index pricing to our customers. In Agriculture, we expect that a higher mix of international projects during the second half of the year will pressure segment margins. However, this impact will be partially offset by reduced SG&A expenses compared to last year. As we noted last quarter, we expect second-half segment operating margins to be similar to the fourth quarter of 2023, which were 10.3% on an adjusted basis. We expect full year consolidated SG&A to be a smaller percentage of net sales compared to last year, reflecting the meaningful process improvements we've implemented. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Avner.
Avner Applbaum: Thank you, Tim. Turning to Slide 17. I'd like to close by thanking our global team. We're actively managing what we can by driving commercial and operational excellence, leveraging key strengths and enhancing productivity across the organization. Streamlining our administrative functions has improved operating margins and is creating sustainable shareholder value. Today, our company is more resilient and making steady progress on our strategic initiatives, positioning us to achieve our long-term financial targets. Our team is delivering innovative solutions to our customers in growing markets that address vital megatrends. I'm confident in our ability to continue delivering value for our stakeholders. I will now turn the call back over to Renee.
Renee Campbell: Thank you, Avner. At this time, the operator will open up the call for questions.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Chris Moore: Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking a couple of questions. Yes, I was hoping maybe we just go a little bit deeper on solar kind of on the strategic adjustments. Just trying to understand a little bit better in terms of some of the projects that you are going to be exiting and just how the overall strategy kind of impacts beyond '24.
Avner Applbaum: Thank you for the question, Chris, and good morning. When we look at our solar business, we made a strategic decision to exit products that are really more commoditized, we cannot add our engineering expertise. We initially started along this road when we were supporting one of our customers. But as we looked into it, it's just not a business that we can add value, we can hit our financial targets. So what we're doing is we're focusing on the areas where we are -- where we can drive that value and drive financial results. And mostly it's in the DG space. So on the DG space where our margins -- we are improving them year-over-year. We are a large, stable player in a pretty much underserved market. So what we bring to the table there is our deep and knowledge expertise in the local countries that we play. We have a good track record going 15 years or so providing a solution that provides low operational costs, low maintenance costs. Actually, our tracker itself, it suits very well into the smaller fields. Some of these DG fields have odd shapes and our product fits very well in that area. That's easy to install and allows for labor flexibility. So when we look at the DG space, we're doing very well in that area. We've actually increased our revenue in that space around 30% year-over-year. We're very pleased with that result. We're able to support our customers in the utility space, providing them with additional products. So we're going to be highly focused on that area where we can drive strong growth. That market is growing 8% to 10% every year. So we're going to keep on serving that market and continue on that road.
Chris Moore: Got it. It's helpful. I appreciate it. And maybe just for my follow-up, North America Ag was strong this quarter. A lot of replacement sales. The guide for the year didn't change. Just trying to understand if the mix between the decline of North America versus International is that changing at all, even though the overall 10% to 15% decline stays the same.
Avner Applbaum: Yes, Chris, let me start off, give some background, and then Tim can jump in. But overall, we did have a strong quarter with storms. I would like to point out it is the unfortunate reality and a way of life for a grower where they get hit with these storms. I just want to point out it's not a given that we get that business. We utilize our strong dealer network. We're ready there with emergency stock, with our supply chain, and we're able to get the farmers up quickly in a very critical time for them. So we did have a very strong quarter. When we look more globally and look at some of the macros, what we are seeing, at least even in this quarter since last quarter, is that the grains themselves, the crops pricing is lower. I mean, going into last quarter, corn was closer to $5 -- $4.60 or so, and now it's closer to $4. You look at soy was over $12. Now it's a little bit below $11. So it is putting additional pressure on the farmer. And right now there's really no indication that the yields won't be good and stock-to-use ratio is still pretty high. So when you kind of factor those in, we're expecting to have a challenging year globally, both in North America and in Brazil. And Tim, I don't know if you want to add some color around that.
Tim Francis: Yes. Good morning, Chris. It's Tim. To give a little bit more on the specifics, our current outlook would be that North America sales for the full year will decrease, approaching mid-single-digits. And then the decrease for international sales would be slightly more than the 15%. And really the -- Avner did a nice job. But just to summarize the reason for the changes, we did have the additional replacement volumes here in Q2, but we are moderating our outlook both for North America and Brazil for the second half of the year.
Chris Moore: Very helpful. I will leave it there. Thanks, guys.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Nathan Jones: Good morning, everyone.
Avner Applbaum: Morning.
Nathan Jones: I want to start off with a few questions on pricing and on, I guess, price versus cost as well. You guys have talked about some specific areas for price declines in Agriculture and the contractual price pass-throughs in utility. You haven't talked about softening prices in any other part of the business. And steel prices have come down a lot. So I'm interested to hear your views on whether you can hold on to that lower input costs, whether you have to give back some pricing in some other areas and then what your views on that net of the input costs would be. So do you expect that to be accretive to margins and accretive to income, even if you're seeing some lower pricing?
Avner Applbaum: Perfect. Nathan, I'll start off, just talk about the environment and our pricing strategies, Tim can go then into detail. So we're going to continue to maintain our pricing leadership. We provide some valuable solutions to our customers. Demand is strong in a lot of our end markets. We talked about the utility space, the transportation area, there's strong market demands and we provide our customers with these solutions and we're going to price accordingly. So there is no expectation that we will take broad-based pricing reductions. We're going to maintain our pricing and I don't see any reason for that. And even in the areas that we are adjusting pricing, it's very specific to every specific areas. We mentioned in Agriculture, it's a surgical approach, also making sure we're maintaining our market share. But overall, right now, I don't see any reason why we would take any actions to reduce our pricing.
Tim Francis: Nathan, it's Tim. Let me expand a little bit. I'm going to talk about TDNS and I'll talk about Agriculture. For TDNS, about 50% of the sale of a utility structure is the cost of steel. And we have the contractual steel index in our alliance customer contracts. And we do expect a return to the cost of steel aligning to the contractual deflation we're seeing in that steel index as the year progresses. And then when you turn to Agriculture, there are lots of components to pivot. There are center drives, there are tires, there are the electronics, there are pieces that go into a control panel. So because of all the different components that we see in a pivot, we don't see a dislocation of what's going on with price versus cost. And as we said in our opening remarks, we are being very targeted on the regional pricing actions we're taking.
Nathan Jones: Thanks for that. I guess my follow-up question is on the Infrastructure business and the total margins there. For most of the last 10 years to 20 years, the combined margins of all of those Infrastructure businesses has been 10%-ish, low-double-digit kind of area, and we're pushing above mid-teens at the moment. What's your view on the sustainability of that versus the market competing those back down to where long-term averages have been? Just any thoughts you can give us on that?
Avner Applbaum: Yes. Nathan, so we did mention that specifically, you look at the quarter, there are puts and takes, and I'll just look at it more broadly. We are -- it's a different environment, first of all, than it's been over the last decade. I mean, we are seeing a lot of strong market demand and some of these megatrends once-in-a-lifetime energy transition. We're seeing load growth for the first time in decades, driven by electrification of the grid, bringing more and more plants internally to the U.S., et cetera. So it is -- I'll start off with it is a very strong market environment and expecting that to continue. Now, we've taken actions internally as well. We've streamlined our organization, so we took out SG&A cost which we get the benefit from the cost, but we're also more effective and efficient. We manage our capacity very closely to make sure we can maximize our capacity. And we're driving continuous improvement. And we do that year in and year out to make sure we keep on driving our profitability. We're adding products, and over the years we have now a much bigger portion of our business goes through concrete. That is helpful. We do now more distribution and substation, specifically on the utility. So those are just some specific examples of what we're working on to overall continue to drive market expansion and overall achieve our long-term goals of increasing our margins over time. So overall, I would say we should keep on seeing margins improving.
Nathan Jones: Excellent. Thanks very much for taking my questions.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Brent Thielman with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.
Brent Thielman: Hi, thanks. Good morning. I guess just a question within the Infrastructure segment. Tim, I caught your comments just in regards to the telecom business. It's obviously been a difficult area for you. It sounds like maybe you're suggesting some stabilization here in the second half of the year. Any insights into what you're seeing from those customers and what gives you the confidence maybe that business is starting to inflect?
Avner Applbaum: Yes, absolutely. Good morning. I'll take that question. Overall, if you -- we just take a step back and look at the telecom business over the last several years, the telecom providers, they spend significant amount of CapEx in -- or cash on both the CapEx and spectrum. And then as they're trying to monetize their investments, they got hit with higher interest rates which put some pressure on the carrier. So we've seen over the last several years slow down, spending less in that area. But we are starting to see some stabilization and we're cautiously optimistic. We're seeing better, better order intake at this point. But what we are seeing from the carriers, they're not spending now a lot of the resource and CapEx on specifically densification, which we initially thought would be the case, we're seeing them more focused on increasing capacity, operating more in the mid-band space, on the suburban and urban areas so they can actually add additional customers. So they're still working on strengthening their balance sheet. You just heard AT&T yesterday talking about that. And they're heavily investing in the 5G space as well. So we're seeing more business as usual, I'd call it that way. Our second half should absolutely be -- we should see some growth in telecom, which is positive for us. And when we look at our product offering that fits well with what we can offer in that space, specifically around mid-cell, our component business, some of our PIM product and so on. So overall, I'd say we're seeing positive signs and we're expecting to see more stabilization in the telecom area.
Brent Thielman: Okay. Very good. Avner, I appreciate that. And then on Agriculture, it seems like the project-based business is giving you some offset, notwithstanding that, a tough kind of overall spending climate in that segment. Could you talk about the pipeline for those sorts of projects and visibility you have into those? And what sort of visibility does that potentially lend you for 2025, I guess, especially if, in fact, this Ag -- weaker Ag market persists?
Avner Applbaum: Yes. So when you think about that area has different drivers than -- specifically we talked before about North America and Brazil. When you look at that areas, which is driven by food security, water scarcity, and seeing very good activity in North Africa, Middle East, et cetera, we are doing well on the projects that we currently have in hand. And we continue to be very active with our dealers in the space, working directly with customers as well. And we have a pretty strong pipeline at this point. Now, it's always hard to determine exactly the timing of each one of these projects. And when you look back, we had some very large projects over the last several years, but we kind of look to pre-COVID, and today it's a lot more active, a lot more activity, and it looks very favorable on that end, and it is offsetting some of the weakness in the area. So I would say that is definitely a bright spot for us until the other markets, North America and Brazil, which we know the long term is going to be very strong for us based on water scarcity, labor availability, sustainability, and all these drivers that we're aware of. So, overall, I would say we're pretty positive on our pipeline in that area.
Brent Thielman: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Tom Hayes with C.L. King. Please proceed with your question.
Tom Hayes: Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions.
Avner Applbaum: Morning.
Renee Campbell: Morning.
Tom Hayes: I was just wondering, maybe just a follow-up to Nathan's question on the pricing, specifically on the irrigation business. You indicated that in the quarter, you took some targeted pricing actions. Just wondering if maybe you could quantify the magnitude of those actions. And were those more kind of a one-time, or is that kind of an ongoing review that you have as far as your pricing in that market?
Avner Applbaum: Yes. So thanks for the question. Pricing in irrigation is very specific for us. It is -- every grower, every region is different, every pivot offering is different. And really, at this case, we had to do some small adjustments in specific areas. But overall, our strategy is we are protecting our market share, and every region could have some different dynamics. Overall, I'd go back and the pivot has a very strong value proposition for the grower. It could ensure he gets the yields he's looking for. He could help him optimize his cost. Without a pivot, you're basically not going to be able to get the yields that you're looking for. So we will utilize our dealer network, our strong offering, to make sure that we can address these needs. So, again, it's -- like I said, it's very specific in specific areas. We shouldn't expect us to see broad-based pricing reductions in irrigation.
Tom Hayes: I appreciate that. Maybe just a follow-up on the capital allocation plans, maybe your thoughts on the M&A environment and where maybe you could be targeting that going forward. Thank you.
Avner Applbaum: So the M&A is part of our capital allocation strategy. Our number one is CapEx, and then we go right into acquisitions. I took a hard look at our pipeline and actually streamlined and reduced the size of the pipeline by taking out acquisitions that are not very strategic to us, that they either don't hit our financial criteria or our strategic criteria so we could really add value. They tied to our core competencies, to the markets that were strong, to our customers, the geographies that are appealing to us. So we took a hard look and streamlined the acquisitions. And right now we're continuing to build our pipeline. And there's no segment or area that we're focusing more than others. We're looking at the areas that we can drive growth and strong synergies. There are a lot of opportunities on the TDNS space, which we are looking very closely as well as others. So you'll be hearing more from us over the next several quarters as we keep on building the pipeline. It's very difficult to time when these acquisitions will happen, but overall, that is going to be part of our strategy. We're generating strong earnings, strong cash flows, and we're going to put that to work.
Tom Hayes: Thank you very much.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brian Drab with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
Tyler Glover: Hi, good morning. This is Tyler on for Brian. Appreciate you guys taking some questions. First of all, can you just elaborate on how a greater mix of distribution and substation sales negatively impact sales? Pricing was higher year-over-year for the segment. So I'm just trying to understand the ebbs and flows of the different mix.
Tim Francis: Sure. This is Tim. I'll take that one. So I'll go back a little bit to my comment about that. If you think about sales of TDNS, 50% of a sale is the cost of steel. So as we make less large transmission structures, we are going to have less revenue. Now, we are excited about the ability of our commercial and our operations team to have increased the capacity to make the more distribution and substation structures to accommodate our customer demand. But again, all else being equal, the smaller the structure, with 50% of its cost being the cost of steel, the less revenue we're going to have.
Tyler Glover: Got it. Yes, that's pretty straightforward. I just wanted to confirm with that pricing was still up and that the negative impact was mostly just transmissions being down. And my follow-up question is, can you just give examples of the higher margin products you are producing due to the strategic investments in your manufacturing facilities? You mentioned on the call. I just want to get some examples of those.
Tim Francis: Sure. It would be back to the distribution and substation product lines. So, every year we try to find that balance of taking orders from our alliance customers versus taking orders out in the bid market. As we looked at what was available in the bid market, we saw an opportunity to take more orders for the distribution and substation, and we were pleased at the margin profile of those orders.
Avner Applbaum: Yes. And let me just jump in and just take a step back and take a look at. We're very pleased with what we're seeing in these markets. In all areas of transmission, distribution, substation, we're seeing strong growth, strong demand. And I wouldn't focus specifically, and quarters will also have move -- there will always be movements, different mixes. In this quarter, we were able to support some of our customers with exactly what they needed, and we have a broad product offering and we're able to address that. So we're very pleased that we're able to support our customers while driving a high quality of earnings. But looking at all areas, I mean, all areas are up around transmission, distribution, substations. Strong growth in some of the distribution, which has been a focus for us. We're a very small part of that market. It's dominated by Wood. But as you go into hardening, we could offer solutions anywhere from steel to concrete, et cetera. So overall, I mean, our -- looking at our backlog, looking at the demand, it's very strong, very pleased with our performance. And we're going to continue to drive growth in that area.
Tyler Glover: Okay. Really appreciate the color. I'll pass it along.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Jon Braatz with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Jon Braatz: Good morning, everyone.
Avner Applbaum: Morning.
Renee Campbell: Morning. Avner, last year you took made some major organizational changes at Prospera and I'm wondering where Prospero now sits in terms of your longer-term goals and Prospero's ability to add new technology to the agriculture to the irrigation business and where what are the plans for Prospera from this point forward?
Avner Applbaum: Yes. Thanks for the question. Prospera now has been more integrated into our -- into our business and into our tech organization. I'd start-off with we're focused on how do we provide the highest-value to our growers through our offering. And we're going to be a -- we're focusing a lot more on the core on where we were very strong under irrigated acres, the pivot offering and how can we provide that value. So Prospera is helping in those areas and as we keep on developing the tech, which makes the farmer a lot more effective he doesn't have to go out to the pivot he can do things remotely we're going to embed more data science or we're embedding more, I should say, more data science, machine-learning into the pivot into many aspects of the pivot. So we will see the pivot getting smarter, more effective helping them address their -- their cost anything from their power and input costs all the way to just being more effective. So we're making great progress in that area where we're just being a lot more focused. Now on-top of that, Prospera has very strong talent that they brought in on the AI and ML side and we're exploring opportunities how they can help us in other aspects of the business including on the infrastructure side. How could they help us on the commercial end, on the engineering end, on the manufacturing side. So there's a lot of great talent that we got and value that they will continue to add to the organization, specifically on the pivot as well as other areas. So overall, I'm pretty excited about the opportunities for us to helping the growers solve some of their most pressing problems helping the growers being more productive and is going to be a key part of that value proposition.
Jon Braatz: Okay. Thank you Avner.
Avner Applbaum: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. We have no further questions at this time. Ms. Campbell, I'd like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.
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