Titan Machinery Inc. (NASDAQ: NASDAQ:TITN) has announced a robust fourth quarter for the fiscal year 2024, with record-breaking revenue and earnings per share (EPS). The company reported a significant increase in total revenue, achieving $2.8 billion, and an EPS of $4.93. Despite an anticipated dip in net farm income, Titan Machinery expects to sustain its strong earnings.
The company's operational optimization and customer focus have poised it for profitability in various market conditions. Titan Machinery also shared its expectations for growth in different segments for the upcoming fiscal year and projected equipment margins to normalize across all sectors.
Key Takeaways
- Record total revenue of $2.8 billion in fiscal year 2024, up 24.9% from the previous year.
- Earnings per diluted share increased by 9.8% to $4.93 for the fiscal year.
- Fourth-quarter revenue was $852.1 million, a 46.2% increase year-over-year.
- Net income for the quarter stood at $24 million, or $1.05 per diluted share.
- Fiscal year 2025 revenue growth projected to be flat to 5% in agriculture, 3% to 8% in construction, flat to 5% in Europe, and $250 million to $270 million in Australia.
- Diluted EPS for fiscal year 2025 is expected to be between $3 and $3.50.
Company Outlook
- Titan Machinery forecasts steady earnings through the current cycle.
- The company anticipates flat to moderate revenue growth across various segments in fiscal year 2025.
- Equipment margins are expected to normalize in fiscal year 2025.
- Operating expenses projected to increase by approximately 40 basis points over fiscal year 2024.
Bearish Highlights
- Net farm income expected to be at or below the 20-year average in 2024.
- Supply chain constraints have limited OEM production, aging the fleet and reducing used equipment availability.
Bullish Highlights
- Titan Machinery optimized operations and focused on customer care for greater profitability.
- The company has successfully integrated the O'Connors acquisition and is optimistic about the Australian market.
- Strong equipment availability and customer relationships are expected to help gain market share.
- Parts and service revenue growth is a strategic focus for the company.
Misses
- Margin pressure is present due to selling used equipment, though specifics on margins were not provided.
Q&A Highlights
- Lead times have normalized, with no customer cancellations reported.
- Management expects an increase in inventory in the first half of fiscal year 2025, followed by a reduction in the second half.
- The company is confident in managing inventory levels and generating positive free cash flow throughout fiscal year 2025.
- Targeted inventory turns may not be achieved until fiscal year 2026.
Titan Machinery's earnings call revealed a company navigating industry challenges with strategic focus and operational efficiency. The firm's record revenue and EPS for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2024 underscore its ability to thrive even in less favorable economic conditions. With an eye on future growth and continued profitability, Titan Machinery Inc. remains a key player in its market sectors.
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- The revenue growth of 16.65% over the last twelve months as of Q3 2024 indicates a strong upward trajectory in the company’s earning capacity.
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Full transcript - Titan Machinery I (TITN) Q4 2024:
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to the Titan Machinery Inc. Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2024 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Jeff Sonnek from IR. You may begin.
Jeff Sonnek: Thank you and welcome to Titan Machinery’s fourth quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call today. We have from the company Bryan Knutson, President and Chief Executive Officer and Bo Larsen, Chief Financial Officer. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release for the fiscal fourth quarter ended January 31, 2024. If you have not received the release, it’s available on the IR tab of Titan’s website at ir.titanmachinery.com. This call is being webcast and a replay will be available on the company’s website as well. Additionally, we are providing a presentation to accompany today’s prepared remarks which can be found also on the same website, ir.titanmachinery.com. The presentation is located directly below the webcast information in the middle of the page. We’d like to remind everyone that the prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. The statements do not guarantee future performance and therefore, undue reliance should be placed upon them. These forward-looking statements are based on current expectations of management and involve inherent risks and uncertainties, including those identified in the risk factors section of Titan’s most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K. These risk factors contain a more detailed discussion of the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements. Except as maybe required by applicable law, Titan assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements that maybe made in today’s release or call. Please note that during today’s call, we may discuss non-GAAP financial measures including results on an adjusted basis. We believe these adjusted financial measures can facilitate a more complete analysis and greater transparency into Titan’s ongoing financial performance, particularly when comparing underlying results from period to period. We have included reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures in today’s release. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the call to take your questions. And now, I’d like to introduce the company’s President and CEO, Mr. Bryan Knutson. Bryan, please go ahead.
Bryan Knutson: Thank you, Jeff. Good morning, everyone. I want to begin today’s call by providing some historical context, which will help put our recent earnings performance into perspective, then I will offer some thoughts on our fiscal 2025 outlook that we are providing today and finish with a summary of our segment performance before passing the call to Bo for his financial review and incremental thoughts on our modeling assumptions. We finished fiscal year 2024 with a strong performance that was driven by growth across all of our legacy operating segments and resulted in record revenue of $2.8 billion and record earnings per share of $4.93. This marked the third consecutive year of achieving record earnings per share while achieving a pre-tax margin of greater than 5%. Our business remains in a position of strength and we expect to demonstrate the durability of our earnings through this cycle following a multiyear effort to implement greater efficiency across our organization. Moreover, this is exactly the level of execution that we outlined at our 2017 Investor Day. I’d remind everyone that back then we were working hard on expense and inventory optimization as a means to driving higher levels of profitability through the cycle. At that meeting, we also outlined a path to $2 earnings per share. Conceptually, we wanted to ensure we made the adjustments necessary to drive an acceleration in operating leverage, so that we were in a strong position once the next cycle arrived. Our business today is nearly twice as large as those projections from 2017 in terms of revenue and I am proud to say our earnings power of nearly $5 per share is higher by 2.5x. Those principles remain in place today that is positioning the business to drive greater and more sustainable levels of profitability in all demand environments, which leads me to some brief commentary on our outlook for fiscal 2025 that we are introducing today. First of all, I’d like to highlight a few key differences between this cycle and the last one for both Titan and the industry in general and why both are in a healthier position today than the previous cycle. First, for the industry as a whole, as has been well documented, supply chain constraints significantly limited OEM production volumes, restricting the amount of new equipment that was going into the market over the past few years. Because of this, fleet age for categories such as high horsepower tractors are still above long-term averages. There has been less short-term leasing activity further limiting the amount of late mile used equipment for sale. Farmers have had three highly profitable years to bolster their balance sheets and advancements in precision ag technology continued to drive productivity gains, providing ROI and new equipment and aftermarket upgrades. For Titan specifically, as the industry continues to consolidate with larger, higher horsepower, and more technologically advanced equipment, we optimized our footprint and removed costs from the business through these restructuring efforts during the last cycle. We doubled down on our customer care strategy driving more sustainable growth in our parts and service business. And we bolstered our professional back office team who focus on managing inventory levels and use trading valuations. While all of these factors I just mentioned put us in a healthier spot today than we were a decade ago, net farm income is expected to be at or possibly below the 20-year average in calendar year 2024. And interest rates don’t appear to be dropping as fast as our customers would like to see. General consensus by industry participants is that ag volumes will be around mid-cycle levels this year. As such, we don’t expect to repeat the success we enjoyed over the past two fiscal years, but we remain in a strong position heading into our current fiscal 2025. We believe this year will prove to be best described as year of transition. We have rapidly moved out of a period characterized by restricted supply and high demand to one that reflects ample to even excess supply and mid-cycle demand. We continue to have good visibility into demand for the first half of the fiscal year given healthy backlog and pre-sale activity. However, the supply chain has caught up quickly in recent months and OEM lead times have normalized whereas they had extended out 12 to 18 months not that long ago. In a broader sense, this normalized supply environment is a welcome change after years of excessive delays and the additional uncertainty with allocations. This allows us to significantly improve our in-stock levels of high horsepower equipment, self-propelled sprayers and wheel loaders across our footprint. But the pace of the improved supply creates challenges in the near-term as we will be working through a rapid influx of equipment deliveries, which will be visible in our new and used inventory balances throughout this fiscal year. As we meet demand from our existing backlog, those new unit sales to customers also generate trade-ins of used equipment. The guidance we are providing today reflects anticipated margin compression in part so that we can manage inventory levels through this transitional period. Our team will proactively manage through these factors in order to drive strong financial results and position us to maintain the higher levels of pre-tax margin that we have worked so hard to produce. Bo will provide some additional depth on the assumptions that underpin our modeling guidance for fiscal 2025. But before I pass the call to him, I want to briefly walk through our customary update on each of our reporting segments starting with domestic agriculture. We had a great finish to the year growing segment same-store revenue by 36% in the fourth quarter. This was largely a function of the team’s strong execution on improving the pace of customer deliveries, following a concerted effort to complete pre-delivery inspections on new machinery. As we have discussed during the past several quarters, balancing the limitations of our service capacity between our ongoing needs of customers with incremental demands for pre-delivery inspections has been a challenge. So with that in mind, in addition to the strong equipment deliveries, I am particularly pleased with our ability to continue to advance our customer care strategy and drive a double-digit same-store sales increase in our reoccurring parts and service business. Investing in people and CapEx to increase our service network capacity remains a key priority for our organization. As such, we will continue to focus on recruiting, hiring and training skilled technicians in the coming fiscal year as well as investing in related capital expenditures to support that growth. Shifting to our domestic construction segment, as expected, our construction segment produced a strong fourth quarter with same-store sales growth of 18%. This was due in part to timing of OEM deliveries this year versus last and our focus on getting these units turned around and out to our customers. We are pleased with the execution of our construction team, who have continued to drive growth and maintain healthy pre-tax margins. Although there has been some recent softening, as we look ahead, we see general stability in the construction markets that we serve. Further, we also anticipate benefiting from improved availability of equipment from our OEM partners. Now moving on to an overview of our Europe segment, which represents our business within the countries of Bulgaria, Germany, Romania and Ukraine. As discussed on our third quarter call, the growing season varied this year, with timely precipitation driving above average yields in Germany and Ukraine, while dry conditions create some headwinds in Bulgaria and Romania. As expected, we saw slowdown in demand in the fourth quarter, but still achieved modest year-over-year sales growth on a same-store basis. Turning to our new Australia segment, the O'Connor’s acquisition is now consolidated into our financials for the first time this quarter, so you will be able to monitor our progress in our segment reporting going forward. The segment’s fourth quarter came in as expected and plentiful rainfall has provided healthy subsoil moisture across our footprint heading into the next growing season. We have completed initial integration discussions across departments, sharing best practices and setting the stage for future collaboration. In the coming months, we will initiate the branding transition to Titan Machinery and I’d like to reiterate how excited we are to have O'Connor’s join the Titan team. Finally, I want to sincerely thank our employees for their tremendous efforts that drove our record revenue and earnings. With that, I will turn the call over to Bo for his financial review.
Bo Larsen: Thanks, Bryan and good morning everyone. I’ll start with a brief review of our fiscal 2024 full year results. As Bryan noted in his commentary, we had another exceptional year and are proud of the performance the team delivered. While we don’t expect to repeat this performance in the coming year, we are focused on demonstrating improved results relative to that of the previous cycle as we move forward. Total revenue increased 24.9% to a record $2.8 billion, driven by balanced growth across each of our revenue categories. Equipment grew 25.3% for the full year and was complemented by solid contributions from our recurring parts and service businesses, which increased 25.6% and 21.2% respectively. Additionally, rental and other was up 10.4%. Earnings per diluted share increased 9.8% to $4.93 for fiscal 2024. This was a record for Titan and it was also right in line with the midpoint of the guidance we established at the beginning of fiscal 2024 after adjusting for the O’Connor’s acquisition. Shifting to our consolidated results for the fiscal 2024 fourth quarter, total revenue was $852.1 million, an increase of 46.2% compared to the prior year period. Growth was driven by a 29.9% increase in same-store sales with the balance reflecting the contribution from the O’Connor’s and other acquisitions. Our equipment revenue increased 51.6% versus the prior year period. Both parts and service revenue each increased 25.7% and rental and other revenue was up 3.1% versus the prior year period. Gross profit for the fourth quarter was $141 million and as expected gross profit margin contracted year-over-year to 16.6% driven primarily by lower equipment margins, which are experiencing some normalization as expected at this stage in the cycle. The fourth quarters of fiscal 2024 and fiscal 2023 included benefits related to manufacturer incentive plans of $7.8 million and $1.8 million respectively. Operating expenses were $100.3 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024 compared to $83.7 million in the prior year period. The year-over-year increase of 19.9% was driven by additional operating expenses related to our acquisitions that have taken place in the past year as well as an increase in variable expenses associated with increased sales. Floor plan and other interest expense was $9.3 million as compared to $2.1 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023. With the increase led by a higher level of interest bearing inventory, the usage of existing floor plan capacity to finance the O’Connor’s acquisition and higher interest rates. Net income for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024 was $24 million or $1.05 per diluted share, which included approximately $0.26 of benefits associated with manufacturer incentive plans. This compares to last year’s fourth quarter net income of $18.1 million or $0.80 per diluted share, which included approximately $0.06 of benefits associated with manufacturer incentive plans. Now turning to our segment results for the fourth quarter. In our agriculture segment, sales increased 40.8% to $620.6 million. Growth was led by strong same-store sales increase of 35.5%, which was further supported by contributions from the acquisitions of Pioneer Farm Equipment in February 2023 and Scott Supply in January 2024. Agriculture segment pre-tax income was $28.8 million and compared to $19.3 million in the fourth quarter of the prior year. In our construction segment, same-store sales increased to 17.7% to $100.1 million led by the timing of equipment deliveries, which shifted some revenue into the fourth quarter of this year as compared to the timing of deliveries to customers in the second half of last year. Pre-tax income was $4.6 million and compared to $5.4 million in the fourth quarter of the prior year. In our Europe segment, sales increased 8.1% to $61.6 million, which reflects a 5.5% currency tailwind on the strengthening euro. Net of the effect of these foreign currency fluctuations, revenue increased $2.1 million or 3.6%. Pre-tax loss was $600,000 and compared to pre-tax income of $1.5 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023. The decrease in profitability was driven primarily by a partial normalization of equipment margins and higher operating expenses. In our Australia segment, sales were $69.8 million and pre-tax income was $4.1 million. This was in line with the lower end of the range we provided on the Q3 call, primarily due to timing of OEM deliveries. This segment is well positioned to start fiscal 2025 with a good amount of pre-sell orders on hand. Now on to our balance sheet and inventory position. We had cash of $38 million and an adjusted debt to tangible net worth ratio of 1.5x as of January 31, which is well below our bank covenant of 3.5x. Equipment inventory increased approximately $200 million in the fourth quarter, of which approximately $87 million is attributable to acquisitions made during the fourth quarter. As Bryan mentioned, we were pleased to be able to improve the pace of customer deliveries following a concerted effort to complete pre-delivery inspections of new machinery. But as expected, our high volume of deliveries to customers was more than offset by receipts from our OEM partners as they were rapidly catching up on production backlog as they finish the calendar year. With that, I will finish by sharing a few comments on our fiscal 2025 full year guidance which we are providing today. First, some segment specific color on the top line. For the agriculture segment, our initial assumption is for revenue to be flat to up 5%. This includes a full year revenue contribution from Scott Supply, which closed in January of 2024 and achieved revenues of approximately $40 million for calendar year 2023. It also assumes mid to high single-digit growth on our parts and service business as we continue to advance our customer care strategy. As for equipment revenues, it assumes industry equipment volumes to be down 10% to 15% and pricing on new equipment to be up low single-digits. The underlying growth for equipment revenue is expected to be driven by market share gains aided by improved availability of high horsepower equipment as well as proactive posture on selling through the use of credit equipment that will be generated through trade-ins. The construction segment has diverse exposure to various end markets and construction activity in Titan’s Midwest footprint remains at level supporting healthy demand. Our initial assumption is for revenue growth in the range of up 3% to 8%. Here again, we assume mid to high single-digit growth of our parts and service business and the low single-digit increase of pricing on new equipment. Construction should also benefit from improved availability of key equipment categories for which we have been – not been able to fulfill demand in recent years. For the Europe segment, our initial assumption is for revenue to be flat to up 5%. Our European business being predominantly ag based has most of the same thematics as we laid out today for our ag segment, one difference being that each country has its own nuances and are at different points in terms of maturation of our business operations. For instance, while our operations in Romania and Bulgaria are more mature, Ukraine is being impacted by ongoing conflict with Russia and in Germany, we are in the earlier innings of establishing our presence across our footprint. As for the Australia segment, which made its debut in Q4 with the acquisition of O’Connor’s, we currently expect FY ‘25 revenue to be in the range of $250 million to $270 million, which is right in line with the $258 million that they achieved in their most recently completed fiscal year prior to acquisition. This business has a strong foundation in place with a focused operations team and is positioned well to deliver a solid first year performance as part of the Titan Machinery. Now on for some overall commentary across our segments. From a gross margin perspective, we expect equipment margins to normalize across all four of our segments as there is now ample supply of inventory available for sale on dealer lots. An additional impact on the agriculture side, as the U.S. net farm income is expected to decrease approximately 25%, which has started to impact demand for equipment purchases. As such, we expect incremental compression on equipment margins in this transitionary period. As for operating expenses, we continue to take action to retain and recruit talent in a consistently tight labor market, especially with service technicians. We also expect a ramp up in IT expenses as we look to complete the rollout of our new ERP across our remaining U.S. locations. From a year-over-year comparison perspective, it’s also worth noting that our Australia segment has a similar level of operating expenses as a percentage of sales as the rest of the business, implying an annualized run-rate of about $30 million for that segment. Taken together, these impacts are expected to result in operating expenses as a percentage of sales about 40 basis points higher than was realized in fiscal 2024 across the company as a whole. Moving to interest expense, I would expect similar levels of quarterly floor plan interest expense in the first half of fiscal 2025 as we incurred in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024 and then see it reduced from there as OEM interest-free terms normalize and interest rates are expected to reduce modestly in the back half of the year. What I mean by normalization of interest-free terms is that in recent years due to low equipment availability, OEMs provided shorter than typical interest-free periods. But that has started to shift back to more normal terms and is expected to be a benefit to interest expense. Bringing it altogether on a diluted earnings per share basis, we are introducing a fiscal 2025 range of $3 to $3.50 per share, which implies a pre-tax margin of 3.2% to 3.5%. Overall, we believe the variables just discussed are reasonably factored into the ranges we are providing today though both risks and opportunities still exist. The midpoint of our guidance at $3.25 earnings per share, which reflects a mid-cycle ag environment, along with some added transitional pressures would be the third highest EPS in company history and continues to build on a solid foundation for more sustainable and profitable growth through the cycle. To provide more color on this important topic, we have added a slide in the back of our earnings presentation, which provides a comparison of recent years versus the prior ag cycle. It also summarizes some of the key reasons for the improved profitability as has already been discussed today. Overall, we are focused on executing the plan and driving higher levels of profitability through the cycle. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready for the question-and-answer session of our call.
Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Ted Jackson with Northland Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Ted Jackson: Thanks very much. Congratulations on the quarter and congratulations on all the work you’ve done in the last several years to position yourself to work your way through changing the cycle, if you would. I just wanted to touch base quickly on some of the commentary around margin, I know you highlighted that you are going to see more pressure on margin on the equipment side as you know, farm income goes down and there is lesser demand. First of all, with regards to that is this across the board with regards to both new and used, I assume that a bigger driver of this would be used more than new? My second point within margin is what does it mean with regards to rental? And then in my third kind of looking at your parts and services in the last quarter was a little below margin relative to kind of recent periods when we see margin pressure with regards to parts and services also? Thanks.
Bo Larsen: Yes, good morning, Ted. Thanks for the question. From an overall margin perspective, in terms of new and used, we don’t really split that out. And it’s really a function of how you evaluate the used, which impacts the new. Overall, your commentary makes sense right, the pressure comes from selling through the used side. So we don’t really split it out, but I mean, that’s how we are thinking about it. And overall, that’s why we talk about a total equipment margin. From a parts and service perspective, I would expect similar margins this next year, as we had in fiscal ‘24 maybe slightly down. But we’re not talking about the same factors that are impacting our equipment margins. And then from a rental perspective, also feeling good about where that’s at and would expect similar margins to last year. I think you were maybe also referencing there, margin changes in Q4 specifically for parts and service and maybe mainly service. Some of that can really be a function of the seasonality which we really see in the business and where our team is focusing their time between delivering new equipment versus service revenue. And I wouldn’t read anything into that. The margins we have seen are pretty similar to what we would expect perhaps slightly down again, as we have seen some pressure and we are wanting to make sure that we are one of the ones in front leading the labor market in recruiting and retaining our service techs.
Ted Jackson: Okay, that’s really it for me. Thanks very much.
Bryan Knutson: Yes, Ted, this is Bryan, I would just add on the rental as Bo commented, recall that if you go back to FY ‘18, we had a much higher rental fleet, and we’ve gotten that really lean and reduced it down by over 35% down to just under the $80 million that we have today and really driven over the last few years, much higher utilization rates both in terms of dollar and physical utilization. And so we expect that to continue again with their very lean and agile rental fleet that we have today.
Ted Jackson: Okay, thank you very much.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Larry De Maria with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
Larry De Maria: Thanks. Good morning. I have a few questions. First, I guess can you talk about I know you talked about lead times to some degree. Can you talk about are there any pockets where they are still extended or is everything normal at this point? And are you guys significantly slowing down or canceling orders at this point?
Bryan Knutson: Hey, Larry, this is Bryan. Good morning. Thank you for the question. Yes, generally everything across the board is now normalized, Larry, as you know, domestic Midwest plants versus overseas production plants always have varying lead times, but the supply chain is, as we mentioned, has really quickly caught up here and so going from even towards the last – at the end of last year still being extended out now generally everything normalized.
Larry De Maria: Okay, even though it’s large four-wheel drive, it staggers and all that stuff is relatively easy to get.
Bryan Knutson: Yes, there is not easy for the OEM still, still some production challenges for them, but yes, now, no longer allocation, I believe from any of the OEMs on any product categories.
Bo Larsen: Yes. And just to make sure we address the one point, I mean, there is not a cancellation of shareholder rate. What we have done right is adjust the dials and that started last year. So we are just at – we have kind of referred to this as a transitionary period when the supply chain catches up and you see kind of condensing of when that equipment arrives, right. So it’s kind of a matter of timing and it will play itself through, but feel good about our ability to do so. And that’s one of the main focuses this year.
Bryan Knutson: Yes. And Larry, I just add, as you know, we were short on inventory for – in many categories for 2 plus years, we’ve talked a lot about that over the past 2 years. And so it took us a long time to get here. And so as things have rapidly normalized, it’s going to take a while to manage through these. And so that’s why you hear us talking about the transition year in and just – it’s become a lot of equipment coming in a short period of time, orders that we have placed all throughout 2023 and even back into 2022, coming in a short period here. But just to your point about the dialing back, and as Bo said, as we saw some of the markets starting to soften, late last summer, we started to pull levers and dial things back and put actions into place. So we feel really good about the proactive measures we’ve taken and the visibility we have into the order board for the first half of the year and the strong pre-sales coming in. And so again, there is just will be a lot of inventory that’s recently come in and will be coming out in throughout this year that we have got built into our modeling that we are just going to get after and sell through.
Larry De Maria: Got it. Thanks for the color. And then – and maybe asking from the customer’s perspective, are – how did orders kind of come in through the quarter if they – I guess to understand, have they fallen off a cliff – are they slowly continuing to get weak and have they sort of felt like they have bottomed stabilized and are we seeing any cancellations from customers?
Bryan Knutson: Yes. So, the cancellations are very low. Generally as we talked in the past that tied back to a death or a divorce or unexpected health issues and so, those just continue, but it has not fallen off a cliff by any means. Commodity prices have been pretty steady here for the last few weeks. And so, farmers again had three really good years here and balance sheets are really strong, recording a lot of record land sale prices throughout our footprint. And they are carrying over a lot of good income into this year and that will help stabilize as well and then just, a lot of the new products from our OEMs and the technology that’s really helping with the productivity and supporting demand as well.
Larry De Maria: Okay, fantastic. If I could just ask one final question, sorry for asking for more, but in the chart where you show the margins a future trough in revenue and you have breakeven margins at sales about half are where we are looking now. Is this meant to be indicative of where you think the market is going or is that more illustrative of what you’ve – of the work you’ve done cycle to cycle?
Bryan Knutson: Yes, no, I appreciate the opportunity to clarify that and it was a bit challenging to perfectly capture something that you can digest relatively quickly. That future state in that trough there right is not trying to provide any indication on the level of revenue, it’s simply trying to provide the pre-tax margin percentage range. So and we also have the budget in there as a reference, right. So, we are coming off of our recent peaks. And we saw an ability to produce pre-tax north of 6%. This year budgeting, a mid-cycle assumption with some added transitionary pressure at that the midpoint about 3.4%. The guidance range here, from zero to 3% is supposed to be indicative of kind of that pre-tax range. And in terms of where it falls in that range, right, all comes down to kind of the timing and the factors at the time, right. Like, what is the trough, what does that look like, where equipment inventory levels, at where interest rates at that point in time. But overall, what we are trying to illustrate is both from peak-to-peak perspective, and then trough-to-trough perspective, and all the way through the cycle, delivering significantly higher profitability. And that’s what we are excited and focused on executing here over the next few years.
Larry De Maria: Okay. Perfect. Thank you very much and good luck.
Bryan Knutson: Thanks Larry.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mig Dobre with R. W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Joe Grabowski: Hey. Good morning guys. It’s Joe Grabowski on for Mig this morning,
Bryan Knutson: Hi Joe.
Bo Larsen: Hi Joe.
Joe Grabowski: Hey. Good morning. So, I guess I wanted to start with the quarter, the guidance you gave in late-November, would have implied your ag revenue would have been up about 20% in the fourth quarter, it came in up over 40%. I guess I am just checking, did the equipment availability really improved that much more than you were expecting in late-November, kind of what played out in the quarter? And did you maybe pull any revenue forward that you might have gotten in the current fiscal year?
Bryan Knutson: Yes. I think just quickly from me, and I will have Bo expand further, Joe. But to your question, yes, the equipment has been really tricky to forecast timing of deliveries in the past 2 years. And so with supply chain improving and so on, it did come in better than anticipated, so that certainly was a part of it. And then also again, as I have mentioned in our prepared comments, just credit to our team who really worked hard to reduce our backlog that has been at record levels in the past 2 years and putting in the hours and getting that equipment out to our customers.
Bo Larsen: Yes. I don’t think I have anything to add there. I think you covered it well.
Joe Grabowski: Okay. Great. Thank you. And my next question, you walked through why your ag revenue guidance for the current fiscal year is so much better than the OEMs, Industry forecasts, and it seems like a big component of that is the market share gains that you are expecting. Maybe talk about your confidence in those market share gains, and I guess if it’s predicated on better equipment availability, I mean isn’t equipment availability improving for everybody, so just your thoughts on that.
Bryan Knutson: Yes. So, stripping everything back and setting the acquisition to the side, right equipment revenues on the Ag segment is about flat to slightly down, versus I think you are referencing the industry volume expectation of like 10% to 15%. And yes, we are better positioned with our equipment, right, and specifically for customers we serve. So, it’s really looking at those relationships and the equipment that they are looking for, and in some cases, our inability to get it in previous years, and now our ability to execute and serve those specific customers. So, it’s not just a broad statement, and we feel pretty good with line of sight, and as we mentioned, with our pre-sale activity through the first half of the year, what we are looking to achieve here.
Joe Grabowski: Alright. And my last question, any early learnings from the O’Connors acquisition and your – maybe your broader thoughts about the Australia market.
Bryan Knutson: Yes. I think just as we continue to get to know the team better and collaborate with them on our best practice sharing and leveraging each other’s knowledge and skill sets, it’s just all been extremely positive. Where, we are really pleased with the acquisition, we are really pleased with the leadership team and the employees over there and very similar business philosophies our two companies have and so that’s really helped with the integration and transition. We really like the market over there. We are very excited to grow over there and continue to invest over in Australia. And yes, we just couldn’t be happier, Joe, and really pleased with that acquisition, excited about going forward.
Joe Grabowski: Alright. Great. Thank you.
Bryan Knutson: You bet.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Klieve with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Ben Klieve: Alright. Thanks for taking my questions. A couple for me. First of all, regarding the ‘25 outlook, I am wondering if you can kind of help us a bit with top line seasonality. Last year was a very lumpy one, I am wondering if you can kind of point to any historic year, you can give us kind of a bit of a benchmark for kind of how we should look at seasonality here in fiscal ‘25, because I suspect it’s going to be off quite a bit from fiscal ‘24.
Bo Larsen: Yes. So certainly, when you look at it, and things like the strength of the fourth quarter, definitely come into play there with your comments. Big picture wise, surprisingly, and as we look at things average over the last 6 years, last 3 years, last couple of years, a whole bunch of different ways. But as we see it, traditionally, our revenues are about 45% in the first half of the year, 55% in the second half of the year. And Australia, even when you overlay Australia with our financials, we expect something very similar with 45%-ish in the first half of the year, 55%-ish in the second half of the year. The nuance here I think is, you are definitely right, there was some strength in the fourth quarter in our U.S. Ag segment, which kind of made Q4 stand out. So, I think that that normalizes a bit, and Q3 and Q4 look more similar in FY ‘25 than they did in FY ‘24. But overall, back half of the year about 55%. And then from a first half of the year perspective, that first 45%, Q1 is traditionally and expected to be lower than Q2, and a lot of that is seasonality and timing of activity and purchasing. So overall, big picture wise, it won’t change drastically from what we have seen. But there is some nuance and certainly more of a level setting between Q3 and Q4 is probably the best expectation at this point.
Ben Klieve: Got it. That’s very helpful. Thanks Bo. And then one more from me and I will get back in queue. I am wondering if you can talk about the M&A opportunities today and maybe in the context of kind of how the M&A environment was at mid-cycle in the – assuming midpoint of the previous cycle as well, is the outlook kind of more favorable, less favorable than it was at this point in the prior cycle, or any big takeaways you can point to there?
Bo Larsen: Yes. Thanks Ben. Yes, certainly, I believe there is – there will start to be a greater amount of opportunities here as we go forward. And also we could see a little bit of a change in the multiples and so on as we go more towards mid-cycle here, and as margins come down a little bit for the other dealers as well. But the real drivers still remain in place, all the back office challenges in the – a lot of the single store, the smaller and the traditional operations struggling with the technology and all the HR and government regulations and just a lot of that back office function that really ties in nicely with our models. And so those drivers that just continued to be ever present. And as we again go towards more mid-cycle here, those get highlighted even further. So, we do believe there will be an increased amount of opportunities as we go forward here. But I would reiterate, for the immediate year here, as we laid out in our prepared comments, we are really focused on our customer care strategy and continuing to focus on driving our parts and service business and increasing our parts and service revenues, increasing our support capabilities for our customers. And we are going to continue to invest in that and be really focused on our customer care strategy. And just really keen on expenses and again, inventory management. So, those are the three priorities we certainly will be opportunistic with acquisitions and as we manage through that inventory that will free up room on the balance sheet, that will generate quite a bit of cash as we exit the year and go throughout next year as well. So, we will certainly be ready and going to be very selective with acquisitions as we go forward.
Ben Klieve: Very good. I appreciate that color. Thanks for taking my questions. I will get back in queue.
Bo Larsen: Thanks Ben.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Rygiel with B. Riley. Please proceed with your question.
Alex Rygiel: Thank you. Good morning. A couple of quick questions here. First, can you talk a little bit about your expectations for inventory increasing throughout the year?
Bryan Knutson: Yes. I mean from the color we are trying to provide today is generally right, that we still have inventory coming in. And obviously, we have expectations for good sales pull-through. In terms of quarter-to-quarter, that remains to be seen a little bit. Again, as we have said, lead times have normalized some, but there is still some inconsistency in terms of when things would arrive. But as it stands, I would expect that we do see some uptick in inventory here in the first half of the year, assuming that all of those things stay on schedule, and then we would play it out and see some inventory reduction from there in the back half of the year. All of that subject to again, the timing of how everything plays out. And we will continue to provide an update for you on a quarterly basis.
Alex Rygiel: Thank you. And then what’s your appetite these days to increase investment into your rental fleet?
Bryan Knutson: Yes. So, Alex, we monitor that closely on a real time basis and it just ultimately is a function of our utilization. And so our team does a great job building relations, and relationships and being out there in the market. And we really look to continue to push and promote our rental fleet. It continues to improve every year. And so we are just very mindful, though, of the utilization rates. And as long as we can keep those up and keep improving those, we will continue to add fleet. And as we see them start to taper off or pull back a little bit, we will turn the valves, or decrease the valves back down. And again, just really a function of the utilizations.
Alex Rygiel: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. And our final question will come from the line of Ted Jackson with Northland Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Ted Jackson: Thanks. You kind of touched on it a little bit with your inventory comments, but I did want to circle back with regards to kind of working capital levels as we roll through fiscal 2025. And that’s obviously tied to inventory levels, a little bit surprised that you would see inventories trending up, like in the first half, given the jump you had in the fourth quarter. But kind of taking that and tying it together, is it fair to assume that we will see a drop in working capital and an improvement in free cash flow during fiscal 2025? And will we – what kind of – what can we expect in terms of free cash flow number for the year, and how would that be weighted out in terms of sort of first half to second half? Thanks.
Bo Larsen: Yes. So, I mean overall, at the heart of your question is would we see better operating cash flow generation, right, and ultimately that all comes down to what the inventory balance is going to look like. So, this year, we saw a significant increase year-over-year in inventory. We certainly wouldn’t expect to see the same thing occur in FY ‘25, right. So, that’s going to be a real positive to the dynamics on the cash flow side. Just a bit more on that, I guess as we as we look at this. So again, we have mentioned a little bit earlier, about 45% of revenue in the first half of the year, 55% in the back half of the year, will kind of the inverse is true in terms of expectations for deliveries. Again, because of the supply chain cash up, right. So, when you have more – a larger portion of inventory coming in, in the period where you have a lower portion of your sales, that’s just mathematically I guess against it that would lead to a continued increase here in the near-term. But overall as we step back and take a look at this, right, and we talk about the team that we have in place and the controls we have in place and everything that we focus on, the dynamics that have kind of come together here in terms of the cycle turning and then the catch up with the supply chain, ultimately just lead to a situation where it takes a little time to play through, right. So, big picture wise, we talk about maintaining healthy inventory turns, and staying out of interest-bearing inventory. And I think this year, we will see that inventory turns are lower than our targeted levels. And it probably takes, working through FY ‘26 to get the turns back up, just the dynamics with how those ratios were even calculated. So, we see the transitionary period and kind of a 2-year journey to get back on that term level. But very much seeing it play out something we can manage deliver the higher profitability that we are talking about today, be well positioned for FY ‘26 and beyond. And ultimately, all of that is going to lead to better cash flow generation that we had seen recently. But in terms of specifically now in the quarters, I mean we will have to continue to see how that plays out here in ‘25.
Ted Jackson: Do you think you can generate positive free cash flow for the entire year?
Bo Larsen: Yes. Again, it ultimately all comes down to inventory levels, but we feel good about being able to manage those and achieve them.
Ted Jackson: Okay. Thanks Bo.
Operator: Thank you. And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.
Bryan Knutson: Okay. Thank you for your interest in Titan Machinery and we look forward to updating you with our progress on our next call. Thank you and have a great day everyone.
Operator: This concludes today’s conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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