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Earnings call: Brightcove raises full-year revenue forecast, Q2 results beat

EditorNatashya Angelica
Published 2024-08-08, 10:14 a/m
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Brightcove Inc. (BCOV), a leading provider of cloud services for video, reported its financial results for the second quarter of 2024, with total revenue reaching $49.2 million, surpassing the company's own guidance. The company's CEO, Marc DeBevoise, detailed the quarter's achievements, including a slight year-over-year increase in adjusted EBITDA to $3.8 million and a record average revenue per user (ARPU) of $99,000 driven by strong add-on sales performance.

Despite a decline in new business due to extended sales cycles, Brightcove secured several notable deals and launched new streaming services. The company also expects to enhance its AI suite and has raised its full-year revenue guidance to between $195.5 million and $198 million, reflecting a strategic focus on growth and disciplined expense management.

Key Takeaways

  • Brightcove exceeded Q2 revenue expectations with $49.2 million and saw a slight increase in adjusted EBITDA to $3.8 million.
  • Record ARPU of $99,000 was achieved through improved add-on sales performance.
  • New business performance was mixed, with longer sales cycles noted.
  • The company signed multiple deals across media and enterprise sectors.
  • Brightcove was recognized as a leader in enterprise video by Aragon Research.
  • Full-year revenue guidance increased to $195.5 million - $198 million.
  • Plans to announce new developments in AI suite later in Q3.
  • The company remains focused on returning to consistent revenue growth.

Company Outlook

  • Brightcove anticipates Q3 revenue to be between $48 million and $49 million.
  • Full-year revenue forecast raised to $195.5 million to $198 million, inclusive of overage and professional services revenue.
  • Non-GAAP operating expenses expected to be between $2.5 million and $1 million.
  • Adjusted EBITDA projection for the full year set at $14.5 million to $16 million.
  • Non-GAAP loss per share expected to range from $0.08 to $0.05.
  • Full year free cash flow guidance remains at $5.6 million to $8 million.
  • The company targets consistent revenue growth and disciplined expense management.

Bearish Highlights

  • Total revenue for Q2 decreased by 3% year-over-year.
  • The 12-month backlog declined by 1% year-over-year.
  • Unfavorable foreign exchange rates impacted revenue in the first half of the year.

Bullish Highlights

  • Total backlog increased by 3% year-over-year.
  • Multiple new deals signed across various sectors.
  • Brightcove named a leader in enterprise video by Aragon Research.
  • The company is raising the lower end of their full-year guidance.

Misses

  • New business performance did not meet expectations due to longer sales cycles.
  • The 12-month backlog showed a slight year-over-year decrease.

Q&A Highlights

  • The company is working on aligning bookings, retention, and new business efforts.
  • Strategies are being implemented to address excess entitlements affecting renewals.
  • Optimism for sustained growth, with guidance raised for the second half of the year.

Full transcript - Brightcove Inc (BCOV) Q2 2024:

Unidentified Company Representative: Good afternoon and welcome to Brightcove's Second Quarter of 2024 Earnings Presentation. Today, we will discuss the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed. During today's presentation we will make statements related to our business that may be considered forward-looking and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended, including statements concerning our financial guidance for the third fiscal quarter of 2024 and the full year 2024, expected revenue, profitability and free cash flow, our position to execute on our go-to-market and growth strategy, our ability to expand our leadership position, our ability to maintain and upsell existing customers as well as our ability to acquire new customers. Forward-looking statements may often be identified with words such as we expect, we anticipate, upcoming or similar indications of future expectations. These statements reflect management's belief as of today and should not be reflected upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. These statements are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and changes in circumstances that are difficult to predict, and many of which are outside of our control. For discussion on material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to those contained in our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K. It is updated by our subsequent SEC filings. Also, during the course of today's presentation, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. There is a reconciliation schedule showing the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures versus non-GAAP measures available in our press release issued after market close today, which can be found on our website at www.brightcove.com.

Marc DeBevoise: Thank you all for joining today. I'm Marc DeBevoise, CEO here at Brightcove and with me today is Brightcove's CFO, John Wagner. As always, we're pleased to be streaming this to you on our own video cloud platform. Today, we'll discuss our second quarter results, provide an update on our strategic progress, and update our view for the second half of the year and beyond. I'll begin with a quick overview of the strong financial results we delivered in Q2, which were meaningfully above the high end of our guidance range. Total revenue for Q2 was $49.2 million above the high end of our guidance range. While revenue and revenue excluding overages were modestly down year-over-year, this was expected as we anniversary the large Yahoo! new business deal of Q1 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was $3.8 million meaningfully above the high end of our guidance range and up slightly year-over-year. It was especially strong given we shifted our standard merit pay increases this year to Q2 versus Q1 in 2023. I'm pleased by our ability to exceed our guidance for Q2 across the board, including another strong profitability quarter. I'm also specifically pleased with our year-to-date first half financial performance for a few reasons. First and foremost, we are well on our way to deliver on our full year guidance across the board, revenue, EBITDA, and free cash flow. Revenue in the first half was flat year-over-year, but on a constant currency basis, revenue actually grew roughly $1 million in the first half. On EBITDA, we were up dramatically year-over-year, delivering nearly $9 million in EBITDA in the first half of this year versus just under $1 million in the first half of 2023. And it would have been even better on a constant currency basis. We are clearly delivering on our commitment to disciplined management while continuing to invest in our key strategic priorities. On free cash flow, we generated nearly $1 million in the first half and expect to continue to generate cash through the rest of 2024 and added $5.5 million in cash to our balance sheet, taking into account the positive impact of the patent sale in Q1 and some negative FX impact across the first half. Ultimately, we hope you take away from our results is that we have transformed our business to be structurally EBITDA positive and free cash flow generative and laid the foundation for future growth. Digging into our business and sales performance in the quarter, it was in line with our expectations. However, the mix of business was a little different than we've seen in the recent quarters. Positively, we had our best add-on sales performance in well over a year in Q2. Add-on sales in Q2 were approximately 25% above our trailing 4 quarter average and above last quarter and the year ago quarter, and average add-on deal sizes were the largest they've been in 6 quarters. This helped deliver record ARPU again this quarter at $99,000. This was all driven by strong upsell and cross sell act combined with improved entitlement add-ons primarily in international markets. One key thing that's been missing in recent quarters has been this add-on entitlement growth, which we saw return this quarter from numerous global media companies. This isn't broad based yet, and we still have other customers going through entitlement downgrades to right size their entitlement base, but the quarter did see a reversal of recent trends. We also saw a modest increase in overages, which is another data point that gives us some optimism we are getting through and closer to working through this down sell cycle. Another important part of our add-on strategy is to diversify our sales opportunities with purpose built, use case specific solutions. To that end, we continue to make progress building pipeline and signing some nice wins with Marketing Studio, Communication Studio, and also now with a new sales use case. We are still relatively early in widely selling some of these newer offerings. Overall, Q2 was a net positive in improving the performance of our add-on sales and getting that part of the business closer to stabilization, but it remains early to say that we are all the way where we want to be. Conversely, our new business performance was a little more mixed in the quarter. We signed quality wins with enterprise and media customers and continue to be pleased with the size of our new business transactions, which remained in line with our stronger, more recent quarters. However, we did find that the new business environment was more challenging this quarter as it progressed. Customer interest and demand signals remain positive, but we saw sales cycles generally get longer and experienced an increase in the number of deals that pushed out of the quarter. This is most notable amongst our larger potential customers. While we believe this is largely a function of more challenging software spending environment, which has been noted by a number of SaaS companies in recent months, we do believe we can execute better than we did in Q2, including this third quarter. From an expense perspective, we were pleased with our progress in driving productivity and efficiency across the business. For example, non-GAAP operating expenses were down 6% year-over-year in Q2. We are confident that we can hold expenses relatively flat in the coming quarters while continuing to invest in our key focus areas that we expect will return the business to consistent revenue growth. Expanding margins over time is core focus for us and we believe we have a number of levers to deliver that outcome. One of those newer levers is AI. The team has been working to identify ways to utilize AI to improve our overall efficiency and specifically that of our platform to improve gross margins. As I mentioned last quarter, we partnered with AWS to evolve our award winning customer service and success to deliver answers about our solutions using Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN)'s Q technology, making our teams more responsive, productive, and efficient. That is just the beginning of bearing fruit for us in terms of time and efficiency savings. We're now turning our sights on ways we can use AI internally, including some of our own AI technologies like Context Aware Encoding. We believe this can help improve our gross and operating margins over time. As I mentioned, we did sign a number of exciting new business add-on and renewal transactions in Q2 across a wide range of industries and geographies. This included networks and streaming services like Canela Reels, TV Asahi, TVB, Tver, Virgin Media, Media24/7 Network, Sky Mexico, Coupang (NYSE:CPNG) [Gaya], Télé-Québec, and TV New Zealand. One media win I would like to highlight was an important multi-year, nearly seven-figure annual new business, new customer deal with a North American television network who is replacing a significant portion of its existing video tech delivery stack with Brightcove. This will be a great example of the flexibility and cost efficiency of our platform and that it can provide any streaming company and was a strong competitive win. We expect to see more opportunities in this part of the market going forward. Additionally, we closed deals with content brands like BBC Studios, [Deb Barr Mercury], United World Wrestling (NYSE:TKO), and Jukin Media. We also had a number of renewals and add-ons that continued our success in sports, including RayCom Sports Atlantic Coast Conference, Wimbledon, the ATP Tour, PGA of America, Formula E, Canadian Football League, and Japanese sports streaming leader, [Undo Tsushin]. We're also proud to be coming to the end of a successful Summer Olympics, which we helped support the streaming efforts of numerous customers over the past few weeks, in addition to enabling the streaming of the UEFA Euro and Copa America finals just a few weeks ago. Plus, we continued our success in the arts vertical with the Queensland Performing Arts Center, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the British Film Institute, The Met Opera (NASDAQ:OPRA), and The Lincoln Center Chamber Music Society. There are also three recent customer go-lives that are great examples of the broader opportunity we see in the media streaming market. J:COM, the largest cable company in Japan, recently launched its newest streaming service, J:COM's Animal Watch, which broadcasts content from across Japan's zoos and aquariums to its millions of subscribers. J:COM is a big media company expanding with alternative ideas, and this concept represents a number of additional growth opportunities for us over time. FrightPix, a new free AVOD streaming service focused on horror, thriller, and true crime, successfully launched on Brightcove's platform as well. This is a great example of how independent media companies can meet the demand for specialized content with a top-tier viewing experience from Brightcove much faster and for less money than building it on their own. Sunn Stream, a new streaming service offering family-friendly movies, music, and educational content, also launched on Brightcove. Sunn Stream was drawn to our ability to provide an intuitive, personalized viewer experience and best-in-class analytics that will enable them to make it easier for their customers to find the content they love. Both Sunn Stream and FrightPix are great examples of that next set of streaming providers we often talk about that will become more important as the streaming industry matures. In the enterprise space, we also signed a meaningful set of new add-on and renewal deals with B2B software companies like Acquia, AMD (NASDAQ:AMD), Autodesk (NASDAQ:ADSK), Broadcom (NASDAQ:AVGO), DocuSign (NASDAQ:DOCU), HP (NYSE:HPQ), Palo Alto Networks (NASDAQ:PANW), and ServiceNow (NYSE:NOW). Consumer and retail customers like Nestle, Longchamp, and Cars.com (NYSE:CARS). Healthcare companies like Express Scripts (NASDAQ:ESRX), Blue Cross Blue Shield, and Pfizer (NYSE:PFE). Financial and business services companies like McKinsey, Invesco, E&Y, RBC (TSX:RY), and Temasek. And then public sector and nonprofit and educational customers like the 9/11 Memorial & Museum, APAC, the Paley Center, Oxford University Press, Kaplan, and then other sizable enterprises including Airstream, Chevron (NYSE:CVX), Marriott, and Havas. From a product perspective, there were two interesting wins in the quarter that were excellent examples of our evolution into a true engagement leader and business driver for enterprises. These examples also demonstrate how we can revamp and redeploy existing product capabilities to address new use cases. I like to think of it as leveraging our horizontal platform capabilities, but with use case specific and vertical solutions to deliver value for enterprises. This expands our market opportunity and is a highly efficient way to leverage our investment in R&D. The first example is a win with Palo Alto Networks. They are a long time Brightcove customer that is expanding its thought leadership capabilities by launching Palo Alto Networks TV, which is built on our Brightcove.TV offering previously called CorpTV. Similar to how we have utilized Brightcove Play TV to evangelize our thought leadership positions to the world, Palo Alto Networks TV will be their own digital streaming channel for B2B and B2C marketing, always on to engage their target audiences more deeply. The second is a sizable win with a long time global real estate services customer that recently engaged us to enable their nearly 30,000 agents and affiliates to send personalized and branded videos at scale to elevate and promote their luxury home portfolio in a unique and differentiated way. We believe this use case with this customer alone represents a 7 figure growth opportunity for us as we expand our relationship with their various subsidiaries. Beyond real estate, we see this use case with an opportunity to expand in financial services, insurance, and any organization with large distributed sales and support teams that can leverage personalized videos to better engage and communicate with their audiences. It's effectively a new sales use case similar to marketing or communication studio today. For us, it's taking advantage of the majority of what we've already developed with a bit of tweaking and customization and now purpose built for this sales use case. Our go to market teams are seeing momentum with this capability and beginning to offer it across other verticals as I previously mentioned. This vertical use case specific approach is a strategy we are focused on moving forward and are specifically pursuing it with our go to market teams to find new and repeatable revenue motions. Additionally, we've been pursuing a multi-year deal strategy to better align with customers over the long term and deliver us a more predictable and growing annual recurring revenue base. While we're not all the way where we want to be yet, the record 12-month or greater subscription backlog this quarter of $59 million and near record total subscription backlog of over $180 million are strong leading indicators of where we are headed with a very strong recurring revenue base and seeking to improve net revenue retention over time. Continued innovation is foundational to our success and is a significant reason why Brightcove is the most trusted streaming technology company and engagement leader for enterprises. The latest validation of our technical strength was Brightcove being named a leader in Aragon Research's 2024 Research Globe for Enterprise Video for the third consecutive year. And we're not stopping. We have innovated and thrived through a series of technological revolutions, from the dawn of the Internet and streaming media to the digital transformation shaping major industries and enterprises, and now to an era defined by engagement automation and the rise of AI. Last quarter, I briefly introduced our approach and strategy to our future AI product suite. I'm extremely excited to say we've made tremendous progress and expect to announce our broad capability AI suite later in Q3 and are in process with over a dozen customers on piloting its capabilities. Our strategy in AI is customer driven and focused on how we can drive growth and opportunity for them, be it engagement audience or revenue, and increase their efficiency, be it in cost or time savings. Our differentiation will be in AI being straightforward and being integrated into our video cloud platform and also continuing to integrate our platform with our customers' other related systems, and keeping our customers' data and content secure and only included in the back end engines they approve, and utilizing best in class partners for back end engines and keeping the customer interaction in our platform, effectively securing our role at the app layer. And using the data we have to predict outcomes with our insights engine and then automating those actions for our customers. I'm excited to say we have now we now have beta products in flight on numerous parts of our AI suite and over a dozen customers agreed to test and are already actively using at least one of its modules. Stay tuned. Later this quarter we will announce the full depth and breadth of our AI suite, the way we intend to use its predictive capabilities to increase engagement and revenue for our customers and save them time and money. Before I turn the presentation over to John, let me finish by reiterating that we had a solid first half of the year and are well-positioned to deliver on our full year targets. We've made good progress building out a more consistent, predictable demand generation and sales motion and continue to push the pace of innovation all while operating with prudent, expense discipline. We are highly focused on the things we can control and positioning the business to return to consistent revenue growth and further margin expansion. While we are pleased that our share price has increased since our last earnings call, we continue to believe we trade at a significant discount to our intrinsic value and that our stock represents an incredibly attractive investment opportunity. And with that, let me turn things over to John to walk through the financials and our guidance in more detail. John?

John Wagner: Thank you, Marc. I'll begin with a detailed review of our second quarter results and then finish with our outlook for the third quarter and full year 2024. Total revenue in the second quarter was $49.2 million above the high end of our guidance range and down 3% year-over-year. Breaking revenue down further, if we exclude overages of $1.3 million in the quarter, revenue was $47.9 million down approximately 4% year-over-year. Subscription and support revenue, which includes overages, was $47.4 million and professional services revenue was $1.8 million down 3% and 6% year-over-year respectively. 12-month backlog, which we define as the aggregate amount of committed subscription revenue related to future performance obligations in the next 12 months, was $123.3 million, a decrease of 1% year-over-year. Total backlog was $182.2 million, up 3% year-over-year, including a record backlog of $59 million, related to the portion of committed revenue in the period greater than 12 months in the future. On a geographic basis, we generated 61% of our revenue in North America in the quarter and 39% internationally. Breaking down international revenue a bit more, Europe generated 17% of revenue and Japan and Asia Pacific generated 22% of revenue in the quarter. Turning to the supplemental metrics we share on a quarterly basis. Recurring dollar retention rate in the second quarter was 83%, which was down from 85% in the previous quarter, due in part to the trend we've seen in recent quarters of reductions in entitlements at contract renewal, especially with our longer duration contracts that originated during the pandemic. As a reminder, this metric only captures renewals in the quarter and upsells at the time of renewal and does not factor in the impact of add-ons during the contract term or multi-year agreements, both of which meaningfully improve our dollar retention. Net revenue retention rate, which provides a more complete view of year-over-year revenue retention, including the benefit of our growing multi-year customer commitments, was 93% in the quarter, which compares to 92% in the previous quarter and 95% in the second quarter of 2023. On a constant currency basis, net revenue retention was 94% in both quarters. Retention is benefiting in part from our growing mix of multi-year commitments. Our customer count at the end of the second quarter was 2,444, of which 1,958 were classified as premium customers. Looking at our ARPU within our premium customer base, our annualized revenue per premium customer was a record $99,000 and excludes our entry level pricing for starter customers, which averaged $4,800 in annualized revenue. Though we don't expect ARPU to always increase in a linear manner as it has in recent quarters, we do think strong ARPU is a reflection of our strategy to focus on and super serve larger customers with more sophisticated requirements where we are able to win, grow and retain customers more effectively. Looking at our results on a GAAP basis, our gross profit was $29.8 million for the quarter, giving us a gross margin of 61% compared to 64% in the second quarter of 2023. Operating loss was $5 million and net loss per share was $0.12 based on 44.7 million weighted average shares outstanding. Turning to our non-GAAP results, our non-GAAP gross profit in the quarter was $30.6 million compared to $33.4 million in the second quarter of 2023, and represented a gross margin of 62% compared to 66% in the year ago period. Non-GAAP operating loss was $477,000 in the second quarter compared to non-GAAP operating income of $537,000 in the second quarter of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was $3.8 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 8% and above the high end of our guidance range. The ongoing strength in adjusted EBITDA reflects our continued benefit of prior cost saving actions and our ongoing expense discipline. Non-GAAP diluted net loss per share was $0.02 based on 44.7 million weighted average shares outstanding. This compares to net income per share of $0.01 based on 43.1 weighted average shares outstanding in the year ago period. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, we ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $24.2 million and remained debt free. Free cash flow for the quarter was $1.8 million after taking into account $2.2 million in capital expenditures and capitalized internal use software. I'll finish by providing our guidance for the third quarter and the full year 2024. For the third quarter, we are targeting revenue of between $48 million and $49 million including approximately $800,000 of overages and approximately $1.8 million of professional services revenue. From a profitability perspective, we expect non-GAAP operating loss to be between $2 million and $1 million and positive adjusted EBITDA to be between $2.5 million and $3.5 million. Non-GAAP net income per share is expected to be in the range of a loss of $0.05 to $0.03 based on 45 million weighted average shares outstanding. For the full year, we are increasing our revenue guidance to $195.5 million to $198 million which includes an estimate of approximately $4 million of overage revenue and approximately $8 million of professional services revenue. This reflects our strong first half performance and absorbs the FX headwind from the first half of the year. We are increasing our full year guidance from a profitability perspective and expect non-GAAP operating expense to be between $2.5 million and $1 million and positive adjusted EBITDA to be between $14.5 million and $16 million based on our continued commitment to our top line guidance as well as our commitment to manage the business to 20% to 30% EBITDA growth or more. Non-GAAP loss per share is expected to be in the range of $0.08 to $0.05 based on 44.7 million weighted average shares outstanding. Lastly, we are maintaining our full year free cash flow guidance, which is expected to be between $5.6 million and $8 million. We expect to be free cash flow positive for each of the remaining quarters of the year, modestly in Q3 and more significantly in Q4. A few things to keep in mind as you think about our guidance. We are increasing our full year guidance despite unfavorable foreign exchange rates that impacted our revenue in the first half of the year by nearly $1 million from the original time that we gave our full year guidance. Though rates have turned more favorably in recent days, we are both absorbing the unfavorable trends from the first half of the year and taking into account some uncertainty with respect to the rates for the remainder of the year in our guidance. Despite this first half FX headwind, we are raising the low end of all of our full year guidance ranges. To wrap up, we are pleased with the results in Q2, exceeding the high end of our guidance range on both the top and bottom line while generating meaningful free cash flow. We are focused on executing on our key strategic areas that we expect will return the business to consistent revenue growth in the future. We will continue to deliver on our commitment to disciplined expense management, which will position us well to deliver on our profitability and free cash flow targets this year and in future. Please give us a moment to transition to Q&A and we'll be back to discuss our results further.

A - John Wagner: And our first question will come from Max Michaelis with Lake Street Capital Markets.

Max Michaelis: Hi guys, thanks for taking my questions. And then so we talk about your commentary about growth going forward. I would like to know what your pipeline growth was for these new business deals. I know you said it was mixed, I believe. What was that growth rate in Q2? And then I guess, do you think you have pipeline in place for 2025, but we could potentially return to revenue growth?

Marc DeBevoise: Yes, thanks Max. I'll take that one. Yes, obviously, we don't disclose specific pipeline and specific pipeline growth, but I think we can say that the, certainly the big deal pipeline, which is much further out and we can see further into those deals, although we don't know exactly when we can close them because they do have the longest sales cycles, has maintained or grown in recent quarters. It's very -- it's meaningfully large and it continues to be something we are very optimistic about going forward. And I think those type of larger chunkier deals could certainly drive us back to growth. The second thing I'll bring up is some of those new sort of product innovations and things we talked about. The new sales use case, the addition of an AI portfolio that's coming later this quarter. We certainly think those give us an upgrade path for existing customers, but also things that can help bring in new customers. And we're starting to pipe customers into those things already. I even talked about that one sales use case that even the existing customer has other units that we can go into and really expand there. So we think hitting those things over the next couple of quarters and building that pipeline will really give us the strength to guide hopefully to growth going into 2025. But obviously we need to go execute over Q3 and Q4 to make that the truth.

Max Michaelis: I'm curious what the sales cycle, like the length of time for these larger fields is. Have you shared that or can you share that with us now?

Marc DeBevoise: Yes, sometimes the larger media deals can take up to 9 to 12 months. Since so we do see long sales cycles on some of the larger media side of the business. But some of those can also be on new business as short as sort of four to six. We usually don't move a new business deal much faster than that. I mean, it has happened, but that's not average. Obviously, add-on moves significantly differently. Right? We can do an add-on in less than 30 days and sometimes those can be larger new projects, cross sells, upsells that can take months at a time. So add-on business, much shorter cycles. Obviously, new business, a little bit longer cycles. And it usually does take sort of in that over a quarter from a new business perspective, but can be less than a quarter or a little over a quarter in terms of add-on.

Max Michaelis: I mean, so given your commentary, [indiscernible] I mean, has that gotten longer than the average? Did these push outs you've talked about?

Marc DeBevoise: No. Great question, Max. I think on the new business side, what we were suggesting is that we felt like we had a good number of deals and some of them just happened to push out of the quarter, sort of predicting those exact close dates were hard. Take the large new business deal we talked about, the near 7 figure media win with the U.S. Television Network, that was kind of a Q1 deal that slipped a little bit into Q2 is the way I would describe that one. And I think we had a number of those this quarter that we're still actively working on to make happen in this quarter.

John Wagner: Our next set of questions comes from Steve Frankel with Rosenblatt Securities.

Steve Frankel: Growing revenue remains a challenge for break of, what steps can the company take between now year-end to position the company for a return to growth?

Marc DeBevoise: Thanks for that. I you know, what I would say is returning to growth, is our goal, is our focus. Obviously, we've had some quarters of growth and some quarters of shrink. In the first half of the year, we actually grew on a constant currency basis. Unfortunately, the currency moved against us on a revenue basis. We need to get that to consistency and get that to faster. Over the next couple of quarters, it's always about bookings and retention. Right? Can we book new business, add on business with our existing customers, and then retain them? And the struggle for us has been we've always had sort of one or two of those working and not the third. And I think you see that a little bit in Q2, right, where we had new business was a little below our expectations, but we felt like add-on sort of made up for it and had us have a good quarter. You know, we need to dial those things together, and I think we're starting to put together the right go-to-market motions that can really make that happen. Again, I would point you to existing use cases, the new use cases we’ve pointed to like that sales use case that’s coming out now. Adding on new product innovation that we can sell for upgrade pass for our customer like DII, pieces that we'll release later this quarter. And then really delivering on the value for our customers when they're as they're coming back for entitlements, our hope is that that is a sustainable trend. So far, we've got a quarter under our belts where this has come back. Our hope is that that's going to be more than a quarter. As we move forward, you see those things line up and I would say that's how we line up for growth coming through the back half.

Steve Frankel: And the last question is, where are you in the process of working through the excess entitlements that have been creating downward pressure on renewals?

Marc DeBevoise: That's the challenging part is working through that. Just as we were signing up, you know, sort of what I would say some international media companies coming back for more entitlements, we still had others hitting the end of their long term contract terms and downgrading for their own actual traffic needs. Right? They were effectively overbought or oversold coming out of COVID with optimism on their storage and their usage, and we've seen those downgrades continue. They have been declining, I believe, for 3 to 4 straight quarters. Those downgrades are getting less impactful. So our hope is that this sort of dissipates over the rest of the year and that we can really get this company back to a consistent growth lever rather than a sort of one quarter growth and one quarter not, and that's our goal.

Marc DeBevoise: Well, thanks. I appreciate all the questions, guys. I want to thank everyone for joining us today. As John and I mentioned, we were extremely pleased with the Q2 results coming in above the high end of our guidance across the board. We had a strong first half with meaningful EBITDA growth, modest revenue growth on a constant currency basis, and delivered on our commitment to generate cash. We're excited about the innovations and the customer opportunities on the horizon in the second half here, and we're pleased to be raising our guidance, especially given the current market conditions. We obviously continue to believe our share price at this level provides a great opportunity for investors, and we look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. Thanks again for joining.

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