Champion Homes Inc. (Ticker: CHMP) has reported a robust start to fiscal 2025, with a 33% year-over-year increase in home sales, totaling 6,705 units, and a 60% surge in organic sale orders. The company's strategic initiatives, including the integration of Regional Homes and the early benefits from the Champion Financing joint venture, have been credited for the growth.
Despite a challenging new home construction market, Champion Homes is optimistic about its positioning for sustained growth, driven by solid demand and the need for affordable housing solutions. The company's net sales rose by 35% to $628 million, and the consolidated gross profit increased by 27% to $164 million in the first quarter. However, gross margin saw a contraction of 170 basis points. Champion Homes generated $85 million of operating cash flows and returned $20 million to shareholders through share repurchases.
Key Takeaways
- Home sales increased by 33% year-over-year, reaching 6,705 units.
- Organic sale orders saw a 60% year-over-year increase.
- Strategic initiatives and the integration of Regional Homes contributed to growth.
- Champion Financing joint venture provided comprehensive financing options.
- Company name changed to Champion Homes, Inc. to expand market presence.
- Net sales increased by 35% to $628 million; consolidated gross profit up by 27%.
- Operating cash flows stood at $85 million, with $20 million in share repurchases.
- Gross margin contracted by 170 basis points.
- The company expects a higher-than-normal backlog due to market uncertainty.
Company Outlook
- Top-line performance in Q2 is expected to be flat or possibly down sequentially.
- Demand from retailers and builder developers remains solid.
- Weather events may impact production and shipment timing.
- Retail demand expected to soften temporarily due to weather conditions.
- Sales anticipated to be higher in the second half of the year, despite a slight decline in the last two quarters.
Bearish Highlights
- Gross margin contraction due to product mix and option content.
- Lower wood products costs impacted margins but specifics were not provided.
- Q2 guidance may be slightly below expectations due to weather events.
Bullish Highlights
- Strong demand and need for affordable housing solutions position the company for sustained growth.
- Expansion into Builder as a Service with digital platforms and consumer retail.
- Innovative financing solutions expected to enhance stakeholder value.
- Captive retail sales were higher than expected in Q1.
Misses
- Gross margin contraction of 170 basis points despite increased sales and profit.
Q&A Highlights
- Executives discussed outperformance in orders across all channels and geographies.
- The company will monitor the order pace and increase production to manage a higher-than-normal backlog.
- Mix of captive retail sales was higher than expected; mix expected to fluctuate based on seasonality and weather.
- Company is gaining share in strong geographies with an expanded product offering.
Champion Homes Inc. has demonstrated a strong first quarter, with significant growth in sales and organic orders. The company's strategic initiatives and financing solutions have contributed to this success, and despite a contraction in gross margin, the overall financial health appears robust.
With a solid demand for affordable housing and a diverse product offering, Champion Homes is positioned for continued growth in the face of market uncertainties and seasonal challenges. The company's executives remain focused on leveraging their strategic initiatives to drive stakeholder value and are optimistic about the sales outlook for the latter half of the year.
InvestingPro Insights
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InvestingPro Data indicates that Champion Homes' competitor, Skyline Champion (NYSE:SKY) Corporation (Ticker: SKY), holds a market capitalization of $4.76 billion. Despite a slight dip in revenue growth by -6.72% over the last twelve months as of Q1 2025, SKY has experienced a substantial quarterly revenue growth of 35.07% in Q1 2025. This may suggest a competitive and potentially growing market for manufactured homes, where Champion Homes is also making strides.
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Full transcript - Champion Homes Inc (SKY) Q1 2025:
Operator: Good morning, and welcome to Champion Homes Inc. First Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Call. The company issued its earnings press release yesterday after the close. I would like to remind everyone that today's press release and statements made during this call include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the company's expectations and projections. Such risks and uncertainties include the factors set forth in the earnings release and in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Additionally, during today's call, the company will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which it believes can be useful in evaluating its performance. A definition and reconciliation of these measures can be found in the earnings release. I would now like to turn the call over to Mark Yost, Champion Homes’ President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Mark Yost: Thank you for joining our earnings call today and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to be joined by Laurie Hough, our EVP and CFO. On this call, I will first go over the key points from our first quarter, then discuss our progress in the second quarter so far, and conclude with thoughts about the balance of the year. I'm pleased to report that the positive momentum we carried from our fourth quarter has not only continued, but strengthened, primarily due to the traction of our strategic initiatives. Our first quarter results reflects good execution across our business, notably in enhancing our customer channels, advancing the integration of Regional Homes and realizing the early benefits from our Champion Financing joint venture. These achievements are closely aligned with our strategic focus, which are increasingly critical in addressing the rising demand for affordable housing amid limited supply. The quarter showcased robust growth with home sales climbing 33% year-over-year to reach 6,705 units. Additionally, organic sale orders increased 60% year-over-year, underscoring strong market demand. This growth was supported by our strategic acquisition and improving activity in our retail, builder developer and community channels. Demand in Canada remains soft as inflation and economic uncertainty is weighing on the consumer sentiment and enthusiasm for new home purchases in that market. Sequentially, our first quarter saw notable increases in revenue, up $91 million alongside growth in our backlog of $89 million, bringing our backlog to a total of $405 million as of June 29, driven by improved demand. Backlog lead times were on average 11 weeks versus nine weeks at the end of the March quarter. We are steadily increasing our production rates at our plants to address this backlog. The acquisition of Regional Homes continues to over perform expectations, successfully integrating and targeting to hit the higher end of the $10 million to $15 million synergy range by the end of fiscal 2025, well ahead of expectations and schedule. Champion Financing, our collaboration with Triad Financial has gained significant momentum recently. Over recent quarters, we've launched new floorplan financing options for our independent dealers and consumer financing programs for selected national products and locations. The early outcomes from these initiatives have been very encouraging, bolstering our confidence that we can provide customers with a comprehensive and appealing home buying solution. This success underscores our commitment to enhancing, financing accessibility further propelling our growth in the manufactured housing market. I'm also excited to announce that following our Annual Shareholder Meeting, we have changed our corporate company name to Champion Homes, Inc. This marks another milestone in our direct-to-consumer journey and emphasizes our commitment to expanding our market presence and enhancing shareholder value through a cohesive and dynamic brand strategy. We are focused on leveraging the Champion Homes flagship brand as a catalyst for growth and commercial excellence for years ahead. Altogether, these strategic actions along with the pace of order growth support our commitment to strengthening our market position and delivering on our promise of providing accessible, comprehensive housing solutions and creating value for our shareholders. As we move into our second fiscal quarter, demand from retailers and builder developers remained solid, reflected in steady ordering patterns that have continued to drive growth. We are also ramping up production in response to these increased orders from community partners. Looking forward, we believe our top line performance for the second quarter is estimated to be flat or possibly down sequentially due to the impacts of weather events that could delay production and/or the timing of shipments. Despite these challenges, we are focused on maintaining our high standards of quality, as we scale production. While traditional new home construction has softened with higher inventory levels and reduced orders, we are seeing a rise in demand. This increase is attributed to more affordable pricing and enhanced quality, positioning our homes as an attractive choice for many homebuyers amid the current economic conditions. Such contrasting trends underline the distinct market dynamics influencing different segments of the housing industry and the favorable outlook for housing at the middle class price point. The integration of these solutions have improved our capture rate of our channel partners and end consumers. The positive feedback at recent events and the early successes of Champion Financing demonstrate the effectiveness of our strategies, sparking considerable market interest and opening new growth avenues within the housing market. I will now pass the discussion over to Laurie, who will delve deeper into our quarterly financial performance.
Laurie Hough: Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin by reviewing our financial results for the first quarter followed by a discussion of our balance sheet and cash flows. I will also briefly discuss our near-term expectations. During the first quarter, net sales increased 35% to $628 million compared to the same quarter last year with U.S. factory built housing revenue increasing 40%. The number of homes sold increased 36% to 6,538 homes in the U.S. compared to 4,817 homes in the prior year period. U.S. home volume during the quarter was supported by additional retail and manufacturing capacity resulting from the Regional Homes acquisition that contributed approximately $151 million to net sales during the quarter. The average selling price per U.S. homes sold increased by 3% to $91,700 due to a higher mix of retail units sold. On a sequential basis, U.S. factory built housing revenue increased 18% in the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. We saw sequential growth primarily in the community and retail sales channels. On a sequential basis, the average selling price per home increased 2%, primarily reflecting the higher mix of retail units sold during the quarter. Average selling prices exceeded expectations for the quarter as we saw healthy demand across most markets and wholesale price stability. Capacity utilization was 58% compared to 57% in the sequential fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. Current utilization rates primarily reflect the increased capacity brought online through recently opened plants. Canadian revenue during the quarter was $21 million representing a 24% decline in the number of homes sold, which was partially mitigated by a 5% increase in the average home selling price. The average home selling price in Canada increased to $124,500 due to a shift in product mix. The reduction in sales volume can be attributed to a combination of factors, including higher interest rates and economic uncertainty in key markets, that have tempered buyer enthusiasm of new homes. These conditions are anticipated to continue to impact the housing market dynamics in these regions in the near term. Consolidated gross profit increased 27% to $164 million in the first quarter and our gross margin contracted by 170 basis points from 27.9% in the prior year period. The lower gross margin was primarily due to lower wholesale average selling prices on new homes sold and changes in product mix to homes with fewer or lower cost options. In addition, margins were impacted by the effect of purchase accounting increases to the carrying value of the finished goods inventory that was acquired with the Regional Home’s acquisition which had a negative 50 basis point impact on consolidated gross margin during the quarter. We expect this purchase accounting impact to continue in the near term as we sell off the remaining finished goods inventory acquired. On a sequential basis, gross margin came in better than anticipated due to the increase in captive retail unit sales, stabilization of average wholesale selling prices, lower input costs and synergy capture from the Regional Homes acquisition. SG&A in the first quarter increased $38 million to $109 million, the increase is primarily attributable to the Regional Homes acquisition. In addition, we incurred a charge of approximately $8 million in the first quarter related to the change in fair value of the earn out related to the acquisition. It's important to note that the maximum earn out amount of $25 million remains unchanged. On a sequential basis, SG&A increased due to the acquisition related earn out charge in variable cost related to higher revenue and profitability. Net income for the first quarter decreased 11% to $46 million or $0.79 per diluted share compared to net income of $51 million or earnings of $0.89 per diluted share during the same period last year. The decrease in EPS was driven by lower gross margin and higher SG&A, including the impact of the Regional Homes acquisition. Adjusted net income per diluted share was $0.91 excluding the fair value adjustment for the regional earn out accrual and the company's share of ECN's calendar first quarter loss of $1.2 million. As a reminder, we record the impact of our equity investment in ECN's common shares on a one quarter lag. The company's effective tax rate for the quarter was 22.5% versus an effective tax rate of 25.2% for the year ago period. The effective tax rate was positively impacted by an increase in recognition of tax credits related to the sale of energy efficient homes. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $75 million compared to $67 million in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.9% compared to 14.4% in the prior year period, which was impacted by lower gross margin and higher SG&A. With demand returning and the stabilization of the wholesale product mix, we feel gross margins have returned to more normal levels. Going forward, we expect gross margins will be impacted quarter-to-quarter by fluctuations in wholesale unit volumes sold through our captive retail operations versus independent channels. As of June 29, 2024, we had $549 million of cash and cash equivalents and long-term borrowings of $25 million with no maturities until 2026. We generated $85 million of operating cash flows for the quarter compared to $75 million for the prior year period. The increase in operating cash flows reflects higher adjusted net income and more favorable working capital changes versus the prior year, partially offset by the growth in our independent dealer floorplan receivables. In the quarter, we leveraged our strong cash position and returned capital to our shareholders through $20 million in share repurchases. Additionally, our Board approved the replenishment of our $100 million share purchase authority reflecting confidence in our strong cash generation. I'll now turn the call back to Mark for some closing remarks.
Mark Yost: Thank you, Laurie. The future looks exceptionally promising for our company, especially in the context of the broader housing market. While traditional new construction is facing challenges, we are seeing strong demand from retailers and builder developers, revitalized ordering volumes from our community partners, and a persistent need for affordable housing solutions. We believe these factors position us well for sustained growth and success. Moreover, with our strategic expansions into Builder as a Service with digital platforms and consumer retail, along with innovative financing solutions, we are set to expand our growth and enhance stakeholder value. Before we move on to the Q&A session, I would like to extend a warm welcome to our new General Counsel, Laurel Krueger. Laurel brings a wealth of experience and proven leadership to our team, making her a fantastic addition. Additionally, I want to express our heartfelt thanks to Bob Spence for his invaluable contributions to the company. We wish him a well-deserved and enjoyable retirement. And now, operator, please open the line for questions and answers.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] And we'll move first to Greg Palm with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Your line is open.
Greg Palm: Yeah. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the good results here. Yeah. I'm just curious if you kind of look back on the quarter, give us a little bit of color around maybe where you saw some of the outperformance relative to initial expectations. I'll start there.
Mark Yost: Yeah. I think orders, Greg, we're probably stronger than we anticipated in the quarter. I would say what we expected was a little bit more, kind of, I'll call it, fragmented demand, certain markets, certain geographies better than others. What I think really surprised during the quarter was the consistency of order demand and the strength of it. So, in other words, we saw order demand across all of our channels. So, between builder developer, between retail, builder developer communities, all of them saw year-over-year order growth between 40% and 60%. We saw geographies that were balanced. So, all of our geographies, whether it's the South Central, Northeast, everywhere except Canada, we saw consistency of order rate strength in the kind of 20% to 70% type range across all of our geographies. So, every geography was strong. Every distribution channel was strong. So, I think that was a pleasant surprise during the quarter overall. And then our team did a very good job on the retail side selling and Regional Homes and the acquisition there, combined with the flywheel of financing is really starting to overperform our expectations on the acquisition side.
Greg Palm: Yeah. Okay. That’s great. And you mentioned fiscal Q2 guidance consistent to maybe a little bit below. It's surprising a little bit just given kind of the quarter-ending backlog. So, I guess the question is, is there some built-in conservatism around potential weather events this quarter or is it based on kind of what you've seen in July and maybe spots like Texas? Maybe just give us a little bit more color there, please.
Mark Yost: Yeah. I think it's a little bit looking at potential timing and deliveries with tropical storm or hurricane tropical storm Debbie and some of the impacts that could have on delivery timing as we go into August and September timing. So, it's really just in anticipation of where the storm is headed and how that's going to affect delivery trending in certain geographies, Greg. I think the order pace continues to be strong through July. So, it's really more of a timing issue of how we think through that piece.
Greg Palm: Yeah. Okay. I’ll leave it there for now. Thanks and best of luck.
Mark Yost: Thank you.
Operator: We move next to Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Your line is open.
Daniel Moore: Thank you. Good morning, Mark. Good morning, Laurie.
Mark Yost: Good morning, Dan.
Daniel Moore: I'll start with maybe just the cadence of demand. From your prepared remarks, it sounds like traditional retail is steady at a higher level as we move into fiscal Q2. Is that correct? And are you seeing kind of continued strength or build there on the retail side?
Mark Yost: Yeah. Retail, I think has been building through the quarter, still very, very strong. Like I mentioned a few minutes ago, actually, we've seen strength in actually all of our channels. So, they've actually been all kind of scaling up on the order growth side. I do expect retail to soften a little bit with the weather conditions, probably in some of the East Coast markets for a few weeks. But other than that, just customer demand has been exceedingly good.
Daniel Moore: Got it. And maybe just a little bit more color on the community side. Last quarter, I think you described one or two more builder developers that you signed on. How are those conversations going? And, is that recovery gaining momentum versus, let's say, 90 or 180 days ago?
Mark Yost: Yeah. So, the community channel, I would say, is healthy. It's not robust. They're coming back in kind of a sequential manner. So, not all of them are back. But it's healthy, good demand. Overall, we anticipate that to continue to pick up over time. The builder demand was probably a little bit of a shining star for the quarter. It was our highest sales channel. Builder is up 40% year-over-year. So, we saw strong growth in builders, followed by retail. Organic retail was up like 27% during the quarter. So, both of those channels as far as sales deliveries were up considerably. We signed up many, many new builders during the quarter. So, that pace of new builder sign-up is accelerating. It's a multiple of what we signed up last quarter and previous quarters. So, that's gained traction at an accelerating rate, which is good to see.
Daniel Moore: Excellent. And then you discussed early on kind of managing those weeks of backlog. I'm just trying to understand, it sounded like you would be ramping production to make sure backlog doesn't get too much higher. But, how do you think about where we are today? Is that a comfortable level? Would you like to let them continue to build a little bit? Any thoughts there?
Mark Yost: Yeah. I think getting backlogs to eight to 12 weeks is normal. I think given the timing of the year, given the election cycle, all those things and the volatility on that, it's generally better to be a little bit on the higher side of a backlog than lower just given uncertainty about what the Fed is going to do and other things. But we continue to monitor the order pace. And, as I mentioned, our backlogs have grown even since our June and quarter end. So, we've seen the continued order pace accelerate, which is surprising for July because of the holiday. Usually, the July holiday order pace slows down, and it's been strong through July thus far. So, I think increasing production to ramp through that is going to be important. So, we don't have too long or backlogs overall for our customers.
Daniel Moore: Makes sense. And then, Laurie, I appreciate the color. It sounds like we're back to a kind of new norm with obviously fluctuations around the mix, but 26%, a reasonable place to think about over the next quarter or two from a gross margin perspective.
Laurie Hough: Yeah, Dan. The gross margins, we're going to expect to see them impacted quarter-to-quarter by the fluctuations in wholesale unit volumes sold through our captive retail versus independent channels as well as our wholesale product mix, single life versus double life and option content. So, hard to predict based on all of those different variables but could fluctuate by 100 basis points or 200 basis points.
Daniel Moore: Got it. That’s it for me. I’ll jump back with any follow-ups. Thank you.
Mark Yost: Thank you, Dan.
Operator: We move next to Mike Dahl with RBC (TSX:RY) Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Mike Dahl: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Nice to see the progress here. Laurie, I want to stick with the margins. Like a quarter ago, the near-term guidance was for gross margin that was kind of in the mid-23s and now we're sitting here at 26% and calling that normal 250 basis points. That's a pretty material difference over a short period of time in terms of how to think about near-term expectations. You mentioned now a few times the mix impact. You also mentioned the input costs in your opening remarks. Can you maybe just bucket out? I'm interested specifically in terms of what some of the lower wood products costs impacted the margins and how that's expected to flow through the next quarter or two as well. And then maybe if you can put some quantifiable buckets around the other pieces that would be helpful as far as what actually drove the 2Q upside back up to this 26% or 1Q upside.
Laurie Hough: Hi, Mike. Thanks for the question. Yeah. We're not going to really bucket the components. I would say that going forward, the retail versus wholesale product mix and how much is going through our captive retail versus directly to independents is certainly going to impact margins as well as option content going forward. During the quarter, we did see the option content kind of level off. So, we stopped the decline that we had been seeing of less features and options and lower price features and actions that we had been seeing in prior quarters. So, we feel comfortable that we've hopefully hit a trough in that mix component, but we are seeing a great deal of mix in single life versus double life at the wholesale level and from quarter to quarter, how much is flowing through captive versus independent. So, unfortunately, I can't give you a clear answer other than there's a variability.
Mike Dahl: Okay. I guess then just as a follow-up to the 2Q question. You do have a backlog that gives you some indication of mix and, Mark, you called out some of the weather potentially impacting retail dynamics in the quarter. So, based on what your expectation is for the near-term mix of shipments in 2Q, calling at 100, 200 basis points, fluctuation quarter-to-quarter I appreciate that can be the range, but can you help us understand more specifically for 2Q, where you'd expect to fall out against that?
Mark Yost: Yeah. I think, Mike, if you look at the quarter, depending, obviously, on the specific geographies that the weather comes in, probably somewhere around 150 basis points would be a fair barometer to think about depending on how things shake out. It's a little too early to tell, to be honest with you, because it's just all the data coming in. But I think that would be a safe kind of area to be in.
Mike Dahl: Got it. Okay. Thanks.
Laurie Hough: Mike, I think overall, in the first quarter, we saw more captive retail sales than we were expecting and that we would expect to continue based on seasonality and the weather events that Mark is talking about.
Mike Dahl: So, sorry, if I can just respond to that one. So, in terms of the captive retail mix, so, understand that the weather could be a headwind. But as far as you've also built out that part of the business. So, on a more go-forward basis beyond the very near term, are you saying that 1Q was elevated in terms of that captive mix even relative to what you might expect later in the year?
Laurie Hough: Yeah.
Mike Dahl: Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Laurie Hough: Yeah.
Operator: We'll move next to Philip Ng with Jefferies. Your line is open.
Philip Ng: Hey, guys. I guess in an environment where the consumer is certainly weakening, especially the low end, a choppy tick bill starts environment is pretty impressive, the momentum you're seeing guys. So, I guess what's driving some of that pickup in the activity in your perspective? And curious to get your latest thoughts on how charter rates have kind of been behaving with rates coming down lately.
Mark Yost: Yeah, Phil, and good morning. I think overall, we're seeing the customer base that's coming to retail and other channels is really looking for an affordable price point home. And I think we can fill that need. So, really, we're seeing that buyer who's disenfranchised with site builds and what they can get the value trade-off for what they can get. And, I think we're starting to see more and more of that. And that's really facilitated by a few things. Our direct-to-consumer marketing programs and online shoppers have picked up significantly. So, we're getting a much higher capture rate than we were before that's allowing us to capture those customers. Additionally, some of the drivers with Champion Financing and obviously, our retail footprint and what we're able to do with the combination of those two is creating a flywheel momentum that we've got in that channel. So, I think it really is you're seeing customers amid short supply and high costs come to a better alternative. So, we're starting to see that momentum.
Philip Ng: Any color on channel rates? I mean, a 30-year secret mortgage come down quite a bit in the last few weeks.
Laurie Hough: Sorry, Phil. So, the channel rates were relatively flat during the quarter, averaging around 9%. So, they do have a tendency to lag for the year.
Philip Ng: Okay. That’s helpful. And then, Mark, you gave some color on perhaps 2Q being down sequentially due to weather, but backlogs and orders sound pretty robust. Can you kind of help us think about sales, how that could progress seasonally through the rest of the year?
Mark Yost: Yeah. So, I think overall versus where our expectations were last quarter, Phil, I think we expect the second quarter, third quarter and fourth quarter all to be higher than what we were thinking probably last quarter. Generally, from second quarter or the first half of the year to the second half, we have more maintenance outages. So, I think generally, things are slightly down in the last two quarters of the year from just a time and holiday standpoint. So, we'll watch orders as they come in and see how aggressively we ramp. But I think that's our take right now is first half is going to be stronger with this quarter's results in the second quarter being higher, kind of in this flat to down from where we are today. And then the third and fourth coming in stronger than we anticipated last quarter, but maybe slightly down from the first half, just due to timing of production.
Philip Ng: Mark, would you see like a bigger normal seasonal bump in 3Q, just given how 2Q is depressed due to weather or that's not something you envision?
Mark Yost: Yeah. I mean, we could. Phil, it's a little too early. I want to see how the election cycle and demand feathers out and how we kind of phase in the backlog. I mean, obviously, if order rates continue at this pace, then obviously, we have to relook at things and how aggressively we produce. But right now, we're kind of keeping it slow and steady ramping up the backlog with a little extra as we get into the election cycle and then feather that in for the second half of the year, and if quarters come in and continue to come in at the pace there, then we're going to have to rethink about getting more aggressive with ramping up the top line.
Philip Ng: Okay. Super. Appreciate the color.
Mark Yost: Thank you.
Operator: We move next to Matthew Bouley with Barclays (LON:BARC). Your line is open.
Matthew Bouley: Hey, guys. Good morning. I want to go back to the discussion around the captive retail versus wholesale. So, obviously, regional revenues were up, I guess, 40% or so sequentially and legacy Champion was up more like 10%. So, kind of thinking about the June quarter here, presumably, there's going to be geographic differences, of course, and it sounded like you were a little surprised by how strong the captive retail business was overall. So, what I'm trying to get at is, what do you think drove the sort of better performance out of captive retail? Was it just geographic differences or as we think about the June quarter, I mean is this really going to be kind of a typical seasonality that we now see for you guys owning this business that, hey, look, there is going to be a big kind of seasonal bump there in the June quarter? Thank you.
Mark Yost: Yeah. Good morning, Matt and thank you. I think overall, a few things are driving the captive business. One, their geographies are strong. I will also say in those geographies, we are gaining share. So, we've got good geographies and we're accelerating the gain of share in those geographies. So, it's kind of a win-win on the captive retail. And, a lot of that is coming from the acceleration of the synergies and bringing products from legacy Champion plants to the regional retail locations and the success we're having with that expanded product offering and also to just the enhanced marketing, the culture of regional is phenomenal, the people and leadership is phenomenal. So, I think overall, we're just very pleased with that acquisition and the integration and the teamwork between the teams and taking care of the customer. So, I think all of that has been very strong, which is why it was so healthy. If you remember the prior quarter, we had a lot of our shipments go into inventory. And now, those are going through that funnel of retail and to the end consumer. So, we had somewhat of a pickup there because of just the timing, if you recall, last quarter, a lot of it was tied up in finished good inventory. Now it's actually going through. So, I do think there's always going to be a seasonal pickup in retail. And generally, the, I'll call it, spring-summer months. You usually have a great pickup in retail, I'll call it, post-tax return time. A lot of people use tax returns as a down payment. So, you'll get a bump usually coming in there. And then as you get into the August, or September time frame, normal seasonality starts to decline a little bit in retail, and then go through the holiday season where things are a little slower. So, you will see seasonality, yes.
Matthew Bouley: Got it. That’s super helpful color. Yeah. Kind of a combination there of your initiatives and the seasonality there because then it goes back to the gross margin and ASP question, is it crazy to think that, okay, as you do have maybe a greater wholesale mix going into the latter half of the calendar year that perhaps the ASP would then reflect that? So, kind of this surprising improvement in this quarter, maybe we kind of see that give back a little in the second half from an ASP perspective. And maybe just a higher level, I mean, if there is going to be more seasonality in the business, should we also think that the gross margins, of course, will therefore be more seasonal than we have seen in years past? Thank you.
Laurie Hough: Hi, Matt. Yeah. Your analysis of ASP is spot on. So, as that mix of wholesale versus retail shifts, we’re going to see a shift in the ASP along with the number of single live versus double-lives and option content. So, all of that variability will impact ASPs and margins.
Matthew Bouley: Okay. Thanks, Laurie. Thanks, Mark. Good luck, guys.
Mark Yost: Thank you.
Operator: We'll move next to Jay McCanless with Wedbush. Your line is open.
Jay McCanless: So, with all these new different product types you're selling, builder developer, parts, etc., could you maybe rank order from top to lowest? What are your highest to lowest gross margin sales between these different pieces and revenue sources in the business?
Laurie Hough: Yeah, Jay. The gross margin out of our wholesale gross margins out of the plants are relatively consistent from product type to product type -- fluctuations come with option content.
Jay McCanless: Okay. And then also, kind of, you talked about the synergies from regional being at the top end of the range. I guess what's a good fixed SG&A number for us to use going forward, just to kind of think about the new businesses you all brought on and some of the other things that have been happening. And also, is there going to be a breakout at some point for Champion Financial or how should we model that going forward?
Laurie Hough: So, the synergy capture from Regional is going to be primarily coming through the cost of sales gross margin line. And the SG&A, I would say, with the exception of the $7.9 million earn-out adjustment, we're at the new normal for SG&A levels. And our SG&A runs around 35% variable. From a Champion Financing perspective, we have concluded with our auditors that we're going to be consolidating the joint venture. So, the majority of that is going to be running through revenue with an offset to a minority interest line on the face of the P&L representing Triad's 49%.
Jay McCanless: Okay. It sounds great. That’s all I had. Thank you.
Laurie Hough: Sorry, Jay, I just wanted to remind you that we record those results on a one quarter lag.
Jay McCanless: Got it. Okay. Thanks for it. Appreciate it.
Mark Yost: Thanks, Jay.
Operator: And it does appear that there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Mark for any additional or closing remarks.
Mark Yost: I want to thank everyone for your attention this morning, and we look forward to updating you on our progress on our fiscal second-quarter earnings call. Thank you, and have a great day.
Operator: This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time, and have a wonderful afternoon.
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