GrowGeneration Corp. (NASDAQ:GRWG), a leading hydroponic and organic garden center retailer, disclosed its second-quarter financial performance, revealing a mixed set of results amid ongoing restructuring efforts.
The company reported a net revenue of $53.5 million, marking an 11.7% sequential increase but a 16.3% decline year-over-year. GrowGeneration also announced strategic plans to close several underperforming stores and streamline operations, aiming to bolster its financial position and focus on proprietary brands.
Key Takeaways
- GrowGeneration's net revenue for the quarter was $53.5 million, with an adjusted EBITDA loss showing an improvement of $1.7 million from the previous quarter.
- Proprietary brand sales grew to 21.5% of cultivation and gardening net sales.
- The company is implementing a strategic restructuring plan, which includes closing 19 stores by 2024 to save approximately $12 million annually.
- GrowGeneration has a strong cash position and has repurchased $4 million in shares.
- The company has revised its 2024 net revenue guidance and removed its adjusted EBITDA guidance due to restructuring.
Company Outlook
- GrowGeneration reduced its full-year 2024 revenue guidance to the range of $190 million to $195 million.
- The company remains focused on expanding its brand portfolio, accelerating revenue growth, reducing costs, and driving higher margins for long-term profitability.
Bearish Highlights
- Same-store sales, excluding e-commerce, decreased by 6.2%.
- The retail business declined by 3.4% year-over-year.
- A net loss of $5.9 million was reported for the quarter.
Bullish Highlights
- Sequential improvement in gross profit margin by 110 basis points to 26.9%.
- Store operating expenses were reduced to $10.2 million.
- The company exhibited signs of strength in the California and Michigan markets.
Misses
- The company experienced a 16.3% decline in net revenue compared to the previous year.
- Full-year 2024 revenue guidance was lowered.
Q&A Highlights
- CEO Darren Lampert highlighted the focus on private label brands and business-to-business sales, with a target to increase private label sales to 35%.
- CFO Greg Sanders stated it's too early to provide an exact EBITDA margin figure for next year but expects improvement by 2025.
- Lampert expressed confidence in the restructuring plan, which is projected to lead to a leaner company structure, higher margins, and profitability by 2025.
- The company has cut $40 million in expenses and plans another $12 million in cost reductions.
- Updates on the restructuring progress will be provided in September.
GrowGeneration continues to adapt to the evolving industry landscape, with CEO Darren Lampert emphasizing the company's commitment to maintaining strong relationships with suppliers and co-packers.
As part of its strategic pivot, the company is reducing the number of products in stores and warehouses, while aiming to enhance the share of sales from its proprietary brands.
GrowGeneration is also closely monitoring developments in cannabis reform and the DEA's proposed rescheduling of cannabis, which could have future implications for the company's operations and market opportunities.
InvestingPro Insights
GrowGeneration Corp. (GRWG) faces significant challenges as reflected in its recent financial performance and market metrics. As of the last twelve months ending in Q1 2024, the company's market capitalization stands at $120.2 million, indicating a relatively small size within the industry. The company's negative P/E ratio of -3.36 suggests that it is not generating net income, a concerning sign for investors looking for profitability.
InvestingPro Data metrics reveal a revenue of $216.94 million over the same period, with a troubling revenue decline of -14.33%. This trend is consistent with the company's reported year-over-year net revenue decline in the article. The revenue contraction is further highlighted by a quarterly decline of -15.73% in Q1 2024, underscoring the challenges faced by GrowGeneration in generating sales growth.
The gross profit margin of 26.43% indicates that while the company can maintain a reasonable level of profitability on the products it sells, the negative operating income margin of -16.69% points to difficulties in managing operational costs effectively. This aligns with the company's announcement to close underperforming stores and streamline operations as a means to reduce expenses.
InvestingPro Tips suggest that investors should closely monitor the company's restructuring efforts and their impact on the financial metrics. With the company's share price at $1.98, it is currently trading below the InvestingPro Fair Value estimate of $2.57, which may indicate a potential undervaluation if the restructuring can successfully improve financial health.
For those considering an investment in GrowGeneration, it is important to consider these metrics in the context of the broader industry and market conditions. There are 15 additional InvestingPro Tips listed for GRWG, which can provide more in-depth analysis and guidance for investors looking to make an informed decision.
Full transcript - GrowGeneration Corp (GRWG) Q2 2024:
Operator: Hello, everyone, and welcome to GrowGeneration's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Nic [ph] and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, participants are in a listen-only mode. Following prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions from analysts with instructions to be given at that time. The conference call is being recorded, and a replay of today's call will be available in the Investor Relations section of GrowGeneration website. I will now hand the call over to Phil Carlson with KCSA for introductions in the reading of the safe harbor statement. Please go ahead.
Philip Carlson: Thank you, and welcome everyone to the GrowGeneration's second quarter 2024 earnings results conference call. With us today are Darren Lampert, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer; and Greg Sanders, Chief Financial Officer of GrowGeneration. The company's second quarter earnings press release was issued after the market closed today. A copy of this press release is available on the Investor Relations section of the GrowGeneration’s website at ir.growgeneration.com. I would like to remind everyone that certain comments made on this call include forward-looking statements, which are subject to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs concerning future events and are subject to several risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements. Please refer to today's press release and other filings with the SEC for a detailed discussion of the risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in any of the forward-looking statements made today. During the call, we'll use some non-GAAP financial measures as we describe business performance. The SEC filing as well as the earnings press release which provides reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are all available on our website. Following our prepared remarks, management will be happy to take your questions. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you have additional questions, please reenter the queue and we will take them as time allows. Now, I will hand the call over to our Co-Founder and CEO, Darren Lampert. Darren, please go ahead.
Darren Lampert: Thanks, Phil, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our second quarter 2024 financial results. Today, we reported solid second quarter results that were consistent with our expectations, as we continue to leverage our strong portfolio of proprietary brands. As always, I want to thank our GrowGen team members. All of our employees have worked tirelessly to help drive our results and we appreciate all their hard work and commitment to our company's continued growth. GrowGen's second quarter results included net revenue of $53.5 million, an increase of 11.7% sequentially from $47.9 million in the first quarter. In addition to sequential sales growth, adjusted EBITDA loss was $1.1 million for the quarter, a $1.7 million improvement from Q1. Importantly, proprietary brand sales remain relatively flat as a percentage of cultivation and gardening net sales during the quarter, but increased from 21.5% compared to 16.7% in the same period last year. It is important to note that proprietary brand sales increased in July with the increase of sales of Drip Hydro, Charcoir and The Harvest Company as customers migrate from trials to sales. As some of you may know, for quite some time we've been taking actions to expand sales of these higher margin proprietary products. This percentage increase highlights the growing market adoption of our proprietary brands, including Charcoir, Drip Hydro and The Harvest Company, and the success of these initiatives. In addition to our top line success, gross margins for the second quarter was 27%, a 110 basis point improvement over last quarter. These results reflect the growing percentage of our proprietary brand sales as well as ongoing focus on streamlining our business with margin expansion and cost reductions front of mind in all our operations. Before Greg takes you through our second quarter financials in more detail, I'd like to talk about our recent announcement, regarding our strategic restructuring plan and expected path to profitability. Last month, we provided details on a comprehensive restructuring plan that is designed to fundamentally reposition our company. Over the past few years, we have already been delivering on our key strategic priorities, which include expanding our proprietary brand portfolio, maximizing operational efficiencies while improving our cost structure and driving increased profitability through margin expansion. This new restructuring plan is the next phase in this process to position GrowGen for sustainable, recurring revenue growth driven by our commercial and B2B customers as well as long-term profitability. This plan has three major components: One, a focus on proprietary brands. This is more than just a statement. We have a clear target for our proprietary brands to account for 35% of total sales by the end of 2025. As part of this initiative, we will continue to launch e-commerce-enabled brand-specific websites. An example of this is The Harvest Company, e-commerce-enabled website, which went live and has already received positive customer feedback. We invite you to take a look at it yourself by visiting www.theharvestcode.com. We also intend to add approximately 50 new products to the proprietary brand lineup over the next 12 months. Two, a digital transformation of sales throughout our entire organization with a B2B customer focus. This will entail the launch of a B2B e-commerce portal, migrating some of our transactional activity from our brick and mortar retail stores onto this digital platform. We expect to launch the new platform in the fourth quarter of this year. Complementing this digital transformation, we intend to implement a fulfillment strategy where commercial customers will shop online and have access to products at existing warehouse style stores offering convenient pickup. Three and lastly, continuing streamlining of our operational infrastructure. Most importantly, we will continue to right-size GrowGen's national retail footprint to align with current industry wide conditions by closing 19 redundant or underperforming stores in 2024. This process is well underway as seven of these locations were already closed in the first half of the year. The remainder are expected to be substantially completed by early Q4. Following these closures, going forward, the company will have 31 operational stores. As we make this transition, we intend to retain the majority of our commercial customers and direct walk-in customers through adjacent locations, commercial salesforce and our new B2B portal. This streamlining will also include the reorganization of our sales, marketing and administrative activities to reduce expenses while seeking efficiencies to drive sales and conduct operations more cost effectively. As part of this, we'll also look to continue to rationalize our inventory, revisit, enhance our strategic vendor relationships and improve recovery of freight expense. Although, there will be near term impacts to margins and expenses as we execute on these initiatives, as there are with any restructuring. $We expect that in the future they will generate margin gains, improve profitability and reduce expenses by approximately $12 million on an annualized basis. We are committed to implementing these changes swiftly and effectively to solidify GrowGen's position as a leader in the hydroponics and organic gardening supply industry. As such, our cash position remains strong, reflected by the company's share repurchase program, which was authorized in March by our Board of Directors. Throughout the quarter, we repurchased more than $4 million in shares. Switching to the topic of guidance. As a result of this restructuring plan and the actions we've outlined today, we will now be revisiting our full year 2024 net revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. We're analyzing the full effects of these actions, including our digital transformation, store closures and the related cost savings we expect to achieve. At this time, we're estimating full year 2024 net sales to be in the range of $190 million to $195 million. As for our previously stated adjusted EBITDA guidance, we are removing this guidance altogether as the timing of actions taken in accordance with our previously announced restructuring may cause results to differ. As we go through the second half of 2024, we have additional data as well as greater visibility on the specific results and benefits of our restructuring initiatives, and we will make the appropriate revisions to our adjusted EBITDA guidance at a later date. Finally, before I turn it over to Greg to review our second quarter financials, I want to briefly talk about the latest updates on our $ segment, as well as cannabis reform and Federal rescheduling. As we've mentioned on previous calls, we hired Blake Street Capital to seek strategic opportunities as it relates to the Storage Solutions segment of our business, MMI. As most of you know, MMI is a leader in providing mobile shelving and racking solutions, and there is a significant opportunity to further monetize this business. We remain engaged with Blake Street Capital and will share news with our stakeholders and the investment community, we have information to announce. Moving to rescheduling. The public comment period regarding the DEA's proposed rescheduling rule for cannabis, which would reschedule cannabis from a schedule one to a schedule three controlled substance, recently closed on July 22 with over 42,000 comments submitted. According to data from Headset, over 92% of those comments were in favor of rescheduling or the complete descheduling of cannabis under the Federal Controlled Substance Act. As we said previously, rescheduling would be a major milestone in the regulatory landscape, would likely be very beneficial to many of our customers, and therefore to GrowGen's business. It would ease restrictions on cannabis research and strengthen the cash flow and balance sheets of state legal cannabis operators by allowing them to take Federal tax deductions for the business expenses. We would also expect this to expand market opportunities for our products, as cultivators would have increased access to capital that they could invest into building out new cultivation facilities and refreshing existing ones. While this is all still subject to a final ruling by the DEA, we continue to be encouraged by the rescheduling process and we'll continue to monitor events as they unfold. In summary, our second quarter results were in line with our expectations and reflect the considerable progress we have made in many facets of our business, including expanding sales of our proprietary brands. While we have already made great strides to date, we recognize there is still more work to do, and we are confident that the measures we've outlined for you today will put us on solid paths for accelerated and sustainable revenue growth and long-term profitability. In addition to our own actions that we control, we are also encouraged by recent industry developments with Federal cannabis reform, which have positive implications for both us and our customers. We're excited about the future of our business and look forward to sharing updates on our progress with you as we execute on our strategic plans. I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Greg Sanders. Greg?
Greg Sanders: Thank you, Darren and good afternoon, everyone. As Darren mentioned, we are pleased to report that our second quarter results were generally in line with expectations and we made solid progress in several key areas. Starting with second quarter sales, GrowGeneration reported net revenue of $53.5 million compared to $63.9 million in a year ago period, representing a 16.3% decline. On an absolute basis, this includes 19 fewer retail locations to close the second quarter. On a sequential basis, revenue increased from $47.9 million to $53.5 million representing an 11.8% improvement. This improvement was achieved despite closing seven stores between the first and second quarters of 2024, illustrating the strength of the existing stores in our portfolio. Same-store sales for the second quarter were $41.1 million compared to $43.9 million in the prior year, a decrease of 6.2%. Excluding e-commerce sales, from the same-store sales comparison, the retail business declined by 3.4% compared to the year-over-year period. While we saw signs of strength in the California and Michigan markets, we felt continued pressure in Oklahoma as well as headwinds in the northeast markets that had an impact on the overall same-store sales metric. As we have highlighted, we will continue to right-size our retail footprint in the back half of 2024 to prioritize our strongest performing store locations that service higher volumes of commercial growers. Storage Solutions revenue for the second quarter was $7.4 million compared to $8.4 million in the prior year, a decrease of 11.3%, which was largely due to various projects being pushed into the third quarter from a timing perspective. On an absolute basis, private label or proprietary brand sales were $9.9 million for the second quarter compared to $9.3 million in the second quarter of 2023. Proprietary brands accounted for 21.5% of gardening and cultivation sales in the second quarter of 2024 compared to 16.7% in the comparable year ago period. The 4.7% year-over-year improvement is due to stronger penetration of our drip nutrient line, Charcoir soil products and Ion lights, which has become the company's best-selling lighting brand. The development of our proprietary brands has become one of our core competencies and we are now targeting proprietary brands to account for 35% of total sales in fiscal year 2025. Gross profit margin was 26.9% in the second quarter of 2024, representing a sequential improvement of 110 basis points from the first quarter of 2024 and a 10 basis point improvement year-over-year. The improvements in gross margin on a year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter basis were achieved despite continued challenging macroeconomic and industry conditions. We continue to see positive impacts from expansion of proprietary brand sales, which have been partially offset from pricing pressure on distributed products and higher freight costs. Looking into the back half of 2024, we are planning to reduce our distributed inventory position and we expect that this activity will have a negative impact on gross margin as we position the business for our 2025 proprietary brand goal of 35% of sales. However, we remain confident that our long-term focus on margin expansion through proprietary brand development and a more nimble footprint will lead towards long-term gross margin growth. Store operating expenses decreased to $10.2 million in the second quarter compared to $12 million in the year ago period, representing a $1.8 million improvement. Sequentially to the first quarter, store operating expenses decreased $400,000 as we continue to see cost savings flow through our results from our strategic rationalization efforts. Meanwhile, selling, general and administrative or SG&A costs were $7.1 million in the second quarter compared to $7.5 million in the comparable year ago period, representing a $400,000 improvement. The progress that we have communicated regarding our cost base was in line with our expectations, and we see continued opportunity to further reduce costs through the remainder of the year and into 2025. As we outlined in our restructuring plans, we expect to generate approximately $12 million in annualized cost savings over the next 12 months to help achieve long term sustainable profitability. Net loss for the second quarter 2024 was $5.9 million or negative $0.10 per share compared to a net loss of $5.7 million or negative $0.09 per share for the comparable year ago period. $Compared to the first quarter of 2024, net loss improved by $2.9 million sequentially compared to a net loss of $8.8 million last quarter. Adjusted EBITDA as defined in our press release was negative $1.1 million compared to a $0.9 million profit in the second quarter of 2023. On a quarter-over-quarter basis, adjusted EBITDA loss improved from $2.9 million loss to a $1.1 million loss, a $1.7 million improvement to the sequential period. Turning to the balance sheet. As of June 30, 2024, the company had total cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities of $56 million, which was a decrease of $5.3 million to the prior quarter. The decrease in cash was primarily due to $4.2 million of capital deployed to repurchase company shares. The company's cash position remains a core strength of the business and we do not foresee any near-term financing needs. As Darren mentioned, we are reducing our full year 2024 guidance for revenue to be in the range of $190 million to $195 million and we are eliminating our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance. These updates regarding full year guidance are a result of the restructuring announcement that was published in July. In closing, GrowGeneration remains in a strong financial position as we enter the second half of 2024. Our second quarter results demonstrate continued discipline with reducing expenses alongside our margin growth initiatives, as the bigger picture remains focused on profitability. During the back half of 2024, the execution of the strategic restructuring plan will be the center of our attention. We believe that the business is poised to emerge in 2025 with a more robust operating model to deliver our shareholders a more profitable and sustainable long-term investment. With that, I will hand the call back over to Darren for closing remarks.
Greg Sanders: Thank you, Greg. We are very proud of the results we delivered for the second quarter, including sequential revenue growth and increased sales from our proprietary branded products. This in turn drove margin and adjusted EBITDA improvement during the quarter. At the same time, even with the progress we have already made, we recognize there is more work to be done. We are looking ahead to the remainder of 2024, and it's a 2025 as we implement our strategic restructuring plan to expand our brand portfolio, accelerate revenue growth, reduce costs, drive higher margins and position GrowGen for long-term profitability as the market landscape continues to evolve and improve. Again, I'd like to thank our investors for their continued support, as well as all our team members for their hard work which makes our success possible. That concludes our prepared remarks. I will now ask the operator to open the line for questions. Operator?
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Mark Smith from Lake Street Capital Markets.
Mark Smith: Hi, guys. Greg, I wanted to just circle back first off on something that you had said. Just, is there any additional kind of guidance or insight you can give us on gross profit margin? Both kind of near term and I know it's going to be choppy as you guys close some stores and maybe liquidate some inventory in those stores, but also kind of long-term if you guys have set kind of goals or an idea of where you would like to be longer term on gross profit margin.
Greg Sanders: Yeah. Mark, as we work through the restructuring announcement that was published in July, we anticipate moving out of position of certain inventory products that will have an impact in the third and fourth quarter of this year. We believe at this point the second quarter was our strongest gross margin period relative to the work that we have to do on that end to prepare the business for 2025. We expect it's probably in that low to mid-20s range as we work through a lot of the inventory reductions that we'll experience in the back half of the year. We believe what that will ultimately lead to for the business in '25 is a margin point in the high-20s, low-30s, as we look forward at the business, particularly with our strategic goal in mind, increasing proprietary brand sales next year.
Mark Smith: Perfect. And then the only other question I had kind of restructuring here, just any update on timing of these closures? I think, Darren, you had said, do you expect to be done by early Q1. Should we expect this to be kind of fluid month to month, or will we see any lumpiness in the closures here over the next couple of months?
Darren Lampert: Right now, we're scheduling three for the next three months. So, we believe that all nine stores will be closed probably in that November timeframe. So, we believe everything will be closed before year-end. There may be some legacy leases that go over to 2025. We certainly hope not. We're working hard on transferring leases and working out payment plans and getting rid of leases as we speak. We have some favorable leases within our portfolio that we'll have no issues getting rid of. But like anything else. During restructuring and closing 19 stores, there are some problem leases always, but none of them are material and we will work through them.
Mark Smith: That's great. Thank you.
Operator: Next question will be coming from Brian Nagel from Oppenheimer.
Brian Nagel: So, my question just with this restructuring, the repositioning of the business, how should we think about the investment needed to execute this? I mean, both from maybe from a money standpoint, but then also just kind of even a process standpoint. I mean, how cumbersome or expensive could this be?
Greg Sanders: We believe not much, Brian. In prior closings, we're up to 65 stores, so we've closed over 20 stores in the last couple of years. They've been running anywhere from 150 to 250 a store. Right now, we have nine stores left. So, you're talking somewhere in that $3 million to $5 million range. And some of its inventory, some of it's working out leases, and some of it's severance to our employees. But we believe that 80% of that will be done before year-end, and we will be going into 2025 as a pretty clean company. And there was a question asked earlier by Mark Smith with regards to inventory and margins. And the one thing when closing stores, there's two things we do with existing inventory and stores. One, as we rationalize it, we put all of it on sale opposed to moving it. It keeps goodwill with customers. It keeps customers with GrowGen to shop at adjacent stores or online or through our commercial team. So, we do a tremendous amount of discounting right now when closing stores. And that's why you will see degradation in margins over the next two quarters.
Brian Nagel: Got it. And I guess, beyond closing stores, the reposition of the real estate fleet, I would think there's also some other reposition in the business, right, Darren?
Darren Lampert: 100%. With 31 stores, we will be much more nimble. We will be focusing on private label brands and really business to business. The industry has changed in our mind. We've seen it over the last couple of years. We've been closing stores, and we haven't really been in the market buying. And really what we're positioning GrowGen for is new product launches, getting our private label division up to 35% of sales, which is our highest margin business. And really, basically taking care of our commercial customers, which amount probably right now to 60% to 70% of our business. 25% of that goes through our commercial team right now, the remainder of shops within our stores. But the industry has changed over time, and we're changing with it. We believe coming out of this restructuring, you will have a leaner company with a tremendously different cost structure. We've cut over $40 million of expenses to date. There's another $12 million of expenses coming. You'll see a higher margin business, and you'll see a company that's starting to make money and grow. And we couldn't be any more excited about it. We've done it slowly. We've closed one store a quarter, two stores a quarter. And with that, it hasn't gotten us to where we want to get, hasn't gotten us to be able to cut enough from the back end of it, from the corporate side of it. So, we're doing what we have to do, and we're doing really going back to our core, which is servicing business to business commercial and product launches. And our product launches are going well. We had our highest percentage of private label sales in the month of July. We had sort of big bump up in July overland over the second quarter. So, it's another two quarters of hard work, Brian, but we believe that our shareholders in the company will bear the benefits of it going into '25.
Brian Nagel: I appreciate the color, Darren. Thank you.
Darren Lampert: Thank you, Brian.
Operator: Next in line will be coming from Aaron Grey from Alliance Global Partners (NYSE:GLP).
Aaron Grey: Hi. Good evening and thank you very much for the questions. So first one for me. Just in terms of the digital initiative, while part of the decision appears to be cost based, I'm just curious, could that also open up the ability to service some new customers that might not have been in the vicinity of your prior brick and mortar stores? And then, just if you could help in terms of how it will be structured now, have you already kind of piloted, how the program will work in terms of the ease of transitioning the customers to the model, including the potential to pick up from warehouse or potentially have it delivered?
Darren Lampert: Yes, we have. I mean, just to start with, Aaron, majority of the stores we're closing are within proximity to stores of ours. As this industry transforms into business to business, which it is going, commercial, customers want a portal, they want opposed to calling and sending in orders. They much rather go on the portal, know that the product is there, and order it. We opened a hundred thousand square foot distribution facility in Ohio this year. We have one out in Sacramento. So -- and we also have some mini hubs around the country where the growers are. So, we are 100% capable of fulfilling orders, especially private label and distributed products. So, I think we're there right now. What we're also doing on the B2B side and the product side of it is we're opening up individual portals for products that individuals can now go on, go on our websites and buy the products that will be shipped through our warehouses. So just, again, cutting costs and just getting back to -- the industry was a lot about learning and teaching and individuals coming into the stores every day. But over the last couple of years, we've seen definitely the flow within our stores has gone down, and we think that we can service our customers better in a much cheaper way and keep pricing down by doing what we're doing right now, by cutting our store counts down, increasing our warehouse capabilities, and also our B2B bill of online capabilities.
Aaron Grey: Appreciate that color there. Second one for me, Darren, just in terms of the proprietary brands. So, you're now at about $50 million run rate based on the quarter. I know you have aspirations to increase that to 35% from 21%, but I just want to get your take in terms of the brand equity that's been built within the proprietary brands and how that might offer opportunities for you to increasingly build the brands into third-party stores and distributors outside of just your own. Thank you.
Darren Lampert: I think right now, about 50% of our brands are going into other stores and going through the distribution channels outside of GrowGen. So, we have built that to date. We are building brand equity by the day. And Drip Hydro is off to a wonderful start. We launched the powders back in January. We had almost 500 trial, active trials going around the country, and they're starting to convert. And we saw that in July as we saw a really nice increase in our private label brand sales in July. It was the highest month we've seen. And it was -- again, it was a tremendous bump from what you saw in the second quarter from us. We're also starting to launch a lot of new products under the Charcoir brands. There's new soils coming out. There's cocoa coins and propagation coming out of that company that we believe will land in the IGC world. But the feedback that we're getting from customers, from other stores and distributors has been nothing short of amazing. And as we said earlier, that we will have another 50 products being launched over the next 12 months to get us to where we want to go. And with that, again, when we talk about margins, again during the next two quarters, we are rationalizing certain distributed products, companies that haven't been good partners to GrowGen. And again, we're shrinking the amount of products that we are carrying in our stores and our warehouses. But we have a lot of great partners out there that we continue to support. That continue to support GrowGen.
Aaron Grey: Okay, great. Appreciate that, Darren. I'll go and jump back in the queue.
Darren Lampert: Thank you, Aaron.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Next question will be coming from Andrew Carter from Stifel.
Andrew Carter: Hey, thank you very much. Kind of a question I wanted to ask here about you kind of gave the gross margin high-20s, low-30s. Could you kind of speak to what, at this revenue base of 195, what your kind of EBITDA margin kind of prospects are, and do you need to meaningfully grow to get to mid single digit? You think you can grow next year. Anything that could kind of help on that side. Thanks.
Darren Lampert: Greg, do you want to try to unpack that and then I'll finish it up?
Greg Sanders: Yeah. No, absolutely. As we look at next year, it's a little bit early for us to meaningfully say what our EBITDA is going to look like. We do anticipate for the remainder of the year that revenue is going to be in that 190 to 195 mix which we feel comfortable with. Bringing down revenue for the back half of the year is really just a symptom of the amount of stores we've decided to close in the third quarter being 12 more than anything else. But we do expect margins to return in 2025. And we do believe that positions the business back for profitability in '25. But I couldn't give an exact figure out yet just because it's too early for us.
Andrew Carter: I guess the second question is, with the focus on proprietary brands, remind us you don't own a lot of manufacturing. I mean, to hit your goals, do you think that you might need to invest in that or do you have enough kind of in a co-packed or co-manufacturing network to kind of support your needs and your penetration goals? Thanks.
Darren Lampert: Yeah. I think, right now, Andrew, our co-packers around the country and around the world that we use, we have wonderful relationships with. So, we're usually ahead of the game with bringing products in the no less. Our Drip liquids are being manufactured in California, really our hub right now. But a lot of our products are still being manufactured overseas. But we have a pretty decent handle on it. We know our co-packers well. We visit with them. I was with our Charcoir owners the other day out in Seattle. They flew in from India. So, I think it's at this time we're not a manufacturer. So, I think we're going to stick to what we're doing on the co-packing side of it.
Andrew Carter: Thanks. I'll pass it on.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Darren Lampert for final closing comments.
End of Q&A:
Darren Lampert: I'd like to thank our shareholders and our employees for their hard work, for their dedication, and for their support of GrowGen. We look forward to keeping you apprised of our progress on our restructuring and we look forward to talking to everyone in September. Thank you.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference for today. We thank you for participating and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.
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