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Earnings call: Oddity Tech reports record-breaking Q2 with strong growth

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Published 2024-08-09, 06:30 a/m
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Oddity Tech (NASDAQ:ODD) (ticker: ODDT), a leader in the online beauty and wellness industry, has reported a record-breaking second quarter for the fiscal year 2024, with significant growth in revenue and profitability. The company announced a 28% increase in revenue to $404 million, with a substantial rise in adjusted EBITDA to $110 million and free cash flow reaching $104 million. This robust financial performance is primarily due to Oddity Tech's strategic investments in technology, which have enabled the company to scale effectively and maintain high profitability margins.

Key Takeaways

  • Oddity Tech's revenue surged by 28% to $404 million in Q2.
  • Adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow stood at $110 million and $104 million, respectively.
  • The company's investment in technology has been pivotal in driving growth.
  • Oddity Tech is enhancing its product line with the development of ODDITY LABS and the upcoming launch of Brand 3 and Brand 4.
  • Strong performance by existing brands IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild contributed to a 27% increase in net revenue to $193 million.
  • The company raised its full-year guidance for 2024, expecting net revenue between $633 million and $640 million.
  • Oddity Tech aims to maintain a 20% growth rate and is well-positioned to manage supply chain and tariff challenges.

Company Outlook

  • Oddity Tech is poised to dominate the online beauty and wellness market, which is expected to account for 50% of the industry in the coming years.
  • The company is looking forward to the second half of 2025 for the launch of Brand 3 and Brand 4.
  • Oddity Tech has raised its 2024 full-year guidance, anticipating net revenue between $633 million and $640 million.
  • For 2025, the company plans to deliver a 20% net revenue growth and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20%.

Bearish Highlights

  • The company has front-loaded costs, expecting more expenses in 2025.
  • Less than 1% of sales were affected by tariffs and duties in 2023, indicating a potential area of concern if the situation changes.

Bullish Highlights

  • Oddity Tech has maintained a startup culture, aiding agility and innovation.
  • The company is investing in ODDITY LABS and expects this to be a future industry driver.
  • Media spend efficiency has doubled in the first half of the year compared to two years ago.
  • The company is confident in its pricing power and ability to manage supply chain challenges.

Misses

  • There were no specific misses discussed during the earnings call.

Q&A Highlights

  • The CEO emphasized Oddity Tech's commitment to innovation and delivering on promises to shareholders.
  • The CFO reassured investors of the company's ability to manage through supply chain and tariff challenges with limited financial impact.
  • The company highlighted its focus on revenue growth driven by orders and efficient media spend, rather than solely on acquisition costs.

Oddity Tech's second-quarter earnings call underscored the company's strong financial results and strategic focus on technology investment, brand development, and market expansion. The company's in-house technology and platform model have been instrumental in achieving high profitability and scaling the business. With the planned launch of new brands and the development of ODDITY LABS, Oddity Tech is well-positioned for continued growth and market share gains in the dynamic online beauty and wellness sector.

Full transcript - Oddity Tech Ltd (ODD) Q2 2024:

Operator: Good day, everyone and welcome to this Oddity Tech Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded and we have allocated time for prepared remarks as well as Q&A. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Maria Lycouris, Investor Relations for Oddity. Thank you. You may begin.

Maria Lycouris: Thank you, operator. I’m joined by Oran Holtzman, Oddity’s Co-Founder and CEO and Lindsay (NYSE:LNN) Drucker Mann, Oddity’s Global CFO. As a reminder, management’s remarks on this call that do not concern past events are forward-looking statements. These may include predictions, expectations, or estimates, including statements about Oddity’s business strategy, market opportunity, future financial performance, and potential long-term success. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and actual results could differ materially due to variety of factors. These factors are described under forward-looking statements in our earnings press release issued yesterday and in our Annual Report on Form 20-F filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on March 6, 2024. We do not undertake any obligation to update forward-looking statements which speak only as of today. Finally, during this call we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful supplemental measures for understanding our business. Additional information about these non-GAAP financial measures, including their definitions, are included in our earnings press release, which we issued yesterday. I will now hand the call over to Oran.

Oran Holtzman: Thanks everyone for joining us today. The second quarter and the first half of the year were another set of record breakers for us. We grew first half revenue 28% to $404 million, delivered $110 million of adjusted EBITDA and generated $104 million of free cash flow. Our business is firing on all cylinders, with no signs of slowing. The $110 million of adjusted EBITDA we delivered in just the first of 2024 is more EBITDA than we delivered in the full year of 2023 growing 28% in the first half, more than 3x faster than legacy incumbents, and with 27% EBITDA margins proved again that our platform is very strong and enables scale, growth and very high profitability consistently Our investment in technology in the past 6 years continued to pay great dividends and our record margins allow us to keep doubling down on investment in technology, science and building new brands. I will reiterate what I said multiple times before. The opportunities that I see ahead for our business are massive. The beauty and wellness industry is huge, profitable and growing, and it is dominated by offline incumbents that are behind the curve. We can see today how some of them are paying the price as they struggle to adapt. This sets up a massive opportunity for Oddity. We are still only a tiny fraction of the global market and therefore the opportunity is so big for us. I strongly believe that we have what is needed to continue winning and leading in the most important areas of the categories growth. With our capabilities and DNA as a company, we are in the best industry in the world for our type of company. In my view, we are unlocking two areas that are changing the industry. First, we are unlocking online, where we are already dominating as the largest direct-to-consumer platform. This is the future of the category. We see it clearly with massive demand on our websites. We expect online to grow to 50% of the market in the upcoming years and Oddity is leading this transformation. The second area of category growth is towards science backed high-efficacy products. ODDITY LABS can be a game changer here, turbo-charging ingredient innovation to solve consumer pain points and we are spending time and resources to build it. Drilling into online, the opportunity for us to continue unlocking beauty in this channel is huge and our competitive advantage grows daily. We have three core areas for unlocking online that we invest in to fuel our long-term growth. Starting with our platform model, we have more than 50 million unique users who are ready audience for us to launch products, categories and brands into. We have shown this ability again and again starting with IL MAKIAGE in color cosmetics, SpoiledChild in skin and hair and now IL MAKIAGE in skin, which is on track to be around 25% of IL MAKIAGE brand revenue in 2024. Second is our in-house technology. Our machine models and algorithms allow us to understand what consumers want to match them to the right product and show them how to use it. In addition to our machine-learning models in the past 3 years, we invested a lot of time and money behind our vision technology. These investments gave us a new way to gather data and to get answers to questions that even our users don’t necessarily know. We have made major strides in building our vision tools and 2024 in particular has been a breakout year. We incorporated vision into our latest shape matching models, which is driving improvement in matching accuracy, reducing return rates on like-to-like products, and driving better LTV. And I believe it will continue to get even better over time. We have also made progress in vision machines for Brand 3, where we now can identify activations, track them, and model progress over time. To the best of my knowledge, no one in our industry has something that is even close to what we are building here, technology wise and it will be the core technology for Brand 3. The third core investment area is our brand building machine. At Oddity, we are building brands from scratch based on first-party data we have from our users. Our brands have distinct points of view, but are all anchored in quality and high-performing product formulations. This is by design any product that we launch must be the top performing formulation in the market based on data from consumer trials and based on ton of data we collect from real users. We don’t have head of makeup artist or head of stylist that gets to pick which products we launch. Only data decides it. Our approach to product development is unlike anything else in the industry in my view, and it is based solely on large datasets. This is why, IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild are launching winners and delivering such high repeat rates and therefore are generating unparalleled profit margins for Oddity. I believe that both of our existing brands, IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild, are on track to be $1 billion brands. For IL MAKIAGE, we expect together in the next 4 years. In addition to IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild, we continue to work out on developing new brands to serve our user base and we are making great progress. Brand 3 and Brand 4 are on track to be launched in the second half of 2025. As a reminder, Brand 3 is a medical grade skin and body brand that will address range of issues, including acne, eczema, hyperpigmentation and other large consumer pain points. So to summarize, data, technology and our new brand development machine, are fueling and will continue to fuel our online growth and profitability. This is the core of Oddity. Moving to science-backed product via ODDITY LABS, for years, it was my dream to use science to create better product for our consumers to solve their pain points and to carve out another source of competitive edge for us. For years, I was amazed by the lack of scientific innovation in our industry. It just didn’t make sense to me given the size of the industry and the progress in science and biotech in the last two decades. The acquisition of Revela in 2023 gave us the foundation for building ODDITY LABS in Boston as our science-backed new product engine. As a reminder, at ODDITY LABS, we are using digital biology to discover, launch and own the next generation of science-backed products that our consumer is so eager for. Last quarter, I spoke about the important steps we have been taking to build labs, to grow the teams, and to develop infrastructures and systems to ensure we are building a platform that works at high scale. As part of that, we are excited to announce that Dr. Ido Bachelet is joining us as the Chief Science Officer to lead our science at ODDITY LABS. Bringing Ido on board is a great milestone for us. I spent time speaking with many scientists, and Ido was by far the strongest fit. He is highly accomplished, world class scientist with deep experience building and scaling multiple high impact biotech labs. He is super creative and shares our culture of disruption and building. After using therapeutics, he decided that instead of developing another drug, he wants to join us in changing an entire industry through science. Dr. Evan Zhao, the Co-Founder of Revela has decided to depart Oddity to pursue other interests. Evan is a very talented entrepreneur who built Revela into a disruptive consumer biotech. Thanks to the acquisition of Revela, Oddity now has the foundation to be at the forefront of science-backed transformation in our industry and we are grateful for that. I want to personally thank Evan and wish him the best in his future undertakings. As I’ve said before, ODDITY LABS is a new master we are building and a complicated one, very similar to our early days building our technology backbone. It takes time and iterations to build something meaningful. Therefore, as I said before, we are not counting on growth coming from ODDITY LABS in the near-term. We don’t need it to achieve our financial targets. We have ton of growth ahead from IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild alone and even more growth on top of that coming from new brands in the pipeline. At Labs, we are literally building another large platform from scratch, but if we get it right, we can differentiate Oddity even more from our competitors in the long run. It is hard and it takes time, but I fully believe in it, and I’m confident we will make it. Looking ahead, as we told you last quarter, 2024 for us is essentially in the rearview. We have full confidence in achieving our financial targets and we are once again raising our full year outlook today. Our teams are now almost entirely focused on preparing 2025 and beyond and we are feeling confident in our execution next year. First, because we are leaving growth on the table in 2024 and staying disciplined about basing ourselves. This is something we have always done. So we deliver on our commitments, which we have achieved not just every quarter as a public company, but every quarter as a private company as well. Second is because of all the growth levers our team is preparing for next year, the teams are now head down with planning, testing and iterating on winners on many fronts, new marketing campaigns, new products, new models and new geographies. Based on what I see today, we are in a strong position for 2025. But before I hand it to Lindsay, I want to take a moment to reflect on our first year as a public company. We decided to take the company public, because we wanted to build something huge, because I felt then, as I do now, bullish on our ability to disrupt this enormous global market with our platform and create massive value for our shareholders. To be candid, it’s not easy to be public company, but we have made a great accomplishment in this past year since our IPO. We are very proud of our financial results. We delivered on our promises to the shareholders. We beat revenue and profit and earnings per share every quarter since going public and the same time, we didn’t change the DNA of our company, a DNA of building, innovation and investing behind big and hard dreams. And this is something I’m very proud of. We have kept our hungry outside our startup culture, despite our growth. This is the most important thing for future success. We’ve also began returning cash to our shareholders with buybacks. We believe our stock offers an incredible value, and we’ll use our strong balance sheet to take advantage of that. With that, I will turn it over to Lindsay.

Lindsay Drucker Mann: Thanks, Oran. Let’s turn to our Q2 results, which I’ll refer to on an adjusted basis. You can find the full reconciliation to GAAP in our press release. Oddity delivered a record-breaking second quarter and first half across the board. We grew net revenue by 27% in the quarter to $193 million. The strength was driven by both IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild across a range of product categories. Net revenue growth was driven primarily by an increase in orders, while average order value increased 6% year-over-year. Average order value growth was driven both by an increase in items per order and positive mix shift to higher-priced products like skin partially offset by a mix shift to repeat sales, which carry lower AOP. The proportion of our sales from repeat customers increased on a year-over-year basis this quarter and is on track to be a higher percentage of our sales in the full year 2024 as compared to 2023. Drilling into revenue composition for the quarter, 94% of our net revenue came from sales on our own website, directly to consumers. The remaining 6% of net revenue in the quarter came from sales in Israel and to marketing affiliates. As a reminder, we do not sell any products to Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN), eBay (NASDAQ:EBAY) or other third party marketplaces. Nor do we generate any direct revenue from products sold on these sites. Any product resold on those sites is unauthorized and done without our consent. Moving down the P&L. Gross margin of 72.2% expanded 150 basis points year-over-year. The gross margin improvement was driven by specific supply chain and logistics efficiencies at both brands. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $62 million in the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin of 32.3% expanded 470 basis points from the prior year, driven partly by gross margin expansion and a higher mix of repeat. 2Q EBITDA exceeded our original guidance of $53 million to $56 million and that was driven in part by the timing of investments into new brands and ODDITY LABS. The timing of these investments is delayed into the back half of the year. We delivered adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.82, our adjusted EBITDA and EPS exclude approximately $7 million of share based compensation. Our free cash conversion remains excellent. We delivered $104 million of free cash flow year-to-date, this free cash generation is a clear reflection of the strength and quality of our business model. In June, our Board authorized $150 million pre year buyback. We were purchased 250,000 shares for $10 million in the second quarter, and have $140 million remaining in our authorization. We exited the quarter with $268 million of cash equivalent and investments on our balance sheet and zero debt. Turning to our outlook, we’re raising our 2024 full year guidance based on the better than expected second quarter results and our high visibility to repeat sales for the remainder of the year. We now expect net revenue between $633 million and $640 million representing 24% to 26% year-over-year growth. We expect to deliver 71% gross margin for the full year, and we expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA between $142 million and $146 million which includes a step up in growth investments for ODDITY LABS and our new brands. We expect full year adjusted diluted earnings per share will be between $1.71 and $1.76. Turning to the third quarter outlook. We’re off to an excellent start, and are pleased with the composition of our growth across both brands and categories, as well as our cohort repeat rates. We expect year-over-year net revenue growth in the quarter to be between 22% and 24% you can find more details on our Q3 outlook and our press release. Lastly, I’ll provide some early thoughts on 2025 we expect to deliver net revenue growth of 20% an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20% consistent with our long-term algorithm. We plan to incur significant investments in Brand 3, Brand 4 and ODDITY LABS, and we do not expect to benefit from any material revenue contribution from these initiatives in 2025. On the topic of supply chain and tariffs, while the ultimate policy outcomes are still to be determined, we’re confident in our ability to manage through with limited financial impact based on the proposals currently in discussion, our gross margin is high, as is our pricing power and our financial exposure to tariffs and duties is very small. As a reminder, we sourced the majority of our products from Europe, and we purchased some components and packaging out of Asia, including China. In 2023 total cost related to tariffs and duties, including from products sourced out of China, amounted to less than 1% of sales. With that, I’ll turn it back to the operator for questions.

Operator: Thank you very much. [Operator Instructions] We will hear first today from Dara Mohsenian at Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS).

Dara Mohsenian: Hey, good morning, guys. So the metrics you gave on the year-over-year performance were helpful. Can you also spend some time talking about where revenue upside came from in the quarter, both in terms of metrics, repeat, average order size, etcetera, but also at the brand level, in terms of SpoiledChild versus IL MAKIAGE. And how you think about the sequential pace of SpoiledChild going forward after a very successful launch over the last couple of years, and how that brand is developing versus your expectations?

Oran Holtzman: Sure. Hi Dara, hi guys, and again, as mentioned, very strong start, both IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild both grew double digit, very strong, according to the plan and across range of products and categories. Growth in revenue was also driven by skin penetrating massively in IL MAKIAGE, we grew from nothing in Q1 and it’s going to be now like 25% in 2024 and just when I think about it like $100 million, which is a lot for a brand that, like 2 years ago, we had nothing in skin. The teams did a very good job in penetration. And it like it was ton of job, but like in the end of the day, and we did perfectly. Increasing revenue was driven by more orders and higher [indiscernible]. It’s a positive makes shift towards high priced products, and unlike most direct to consumer companies that generate most of our revenue from repeat. And it’s although we grew 28% in Q1 this is viability so profitable, and we continue to see the repeat percentage of revenue increase consistently. There is nothing more impactful and meaningful to the business strength than this. We enter to the second quarter with great momentum from the first quarter, and we began reducing our acquisition spend in order to slow growth down to line closer to our algorithm of 20% growth. And as a result, our repeat business was the majority of our revenue in this quarter, and that’s why the profitability is so huge, 32% of them of adjusted EBITDA margin. And we have shown once again that we have – we can power the business, and we have full control. This is a huge advantage for us, and in terms of efficiency, we are – we spend in the first half, more than double than what we spent 2 years ago, in terms of spending media and efficiency is even stronger now. So the business in full control.

Operator: Our next question will come from Youssef Squali at Truist Securities. I believe we may have lost. Mr. Squali, I invite you to re signal, sir. Next we will hear from Andrew Boone at JMP Securities. We may have lost that line as well. Again, I do invite you to re signal with star and one will it try to go to Lauren Lieberman at Barclays (LON:BARC). Are you able to speak? Your line is open.

Lauren Lieberman: Can you hear me?

Operator: Yes. Ma’am.

Lauren Lieberman: Right. Cool. Exciting. Hi, my phone works. Cool. So I am going to loop two questions into one. So first around, I thought it was helpful, the sort of discussion you shared on labs and the time it takes to build what you’re hoping to but I was curious, as we think about new product launches, inclusive of Brands 3 and 4 for next year, whether there are sort of unique and discrete molecules that will be included in those. I think, my recollection Is that was the hope that LABS would be contributing in 2025 to some of the new products you’d be bringing to market. So I wanted to just get a status check on that. And then the second piece was the step up in SG&A spending in the second half. And I know you guys have a habit of investing ahead and planning ahead for growth, but given that Brands 3 and 4 aren’t launching into the second half of ‘25 it seems like a lot of spending closer in. So I was curious if that’s where it’s directed, or if it’s more towards continuing to scale LABS. Thanks.

Oran Holtzman: Yes, hi, Lauren, and look in terms of LABS, as I mentioned, we are working a lot on building the platform there properly. And when we discussed last quarter, I said that we are going to see the majority like the first fruit from LABS in Brand 3 and Brand 4. It’s still the plan. We will have a few launches before that that will go into SpoiledChild and IL MAKIAGE. But overall, in the next year or 2 it’s mainly expenses. And we are doing it. We are happy to do it. And we believe that, like we are in the beginning of massive transformation where brand – with brand is not enough, when people will ask for more than that. And we believe that side back product is the future of the industry, and we see it as a race, and therefore we are investing a lot in building this capability. I believe that Oddity has the ability to do something that no one has can because of our ability to build something from scratch. And we are building another platform. If I wanted, I could already have product in the market from labs. But first of all, I don’t need because we are growing more than what I want without it. And second, because I want to build something that we can be proud of, and the products are not best in class, are way more than that compared to the competitors. And so hope it helps. It answer your question. So yes, Brand 3 and Brand 4. And in addition to that, we will see some products within IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild in the next 6 to 12 months. Lindsay?

Lindsay Drucker Mann: I’ll take the SG&A piece of that. So as you know, we started the year off with very ambitious investment and spending plans across 2020 – ‘24 in support of our all of our initiatives in 2025 including the two new brands, plus ODDITY LABS. As the year progressed, the timing of some of that spending got pushed. We had delivered upside, of course, to our numbers, and you saw that in the fact that our full year guidance, we’ve continued to raise, but to the degree we’ve had really remarkable profitability in the first half of the year. We didn’t expect to be as profitable in the first half just because of the spending. But you can you get a sense of how profitable the underlying businesses. Even though, with what we delivered in the first half of ‘24 we still, that’s still with some additional growth spending layered on. So if we were to pull all of that investment off, you have an even more profitable business. And that’s a function of, as Oran said, just how incredible the repeat is. We also continued to be very efficient on our acquisition spend, which, as you know, the first half of the year, that’s where the bulk of our acquisition activity happens. So you’re seeing right now this kind of perfect flywheel of B2C model that is super profitable because of strong repeat and continues to acquire in a very efficient way, and is then able to redeploy that excess return into future investments, which we believe will drive us for many years in the future, the types of expenses, I’d say it’s a bunch of things, product development, brand development, people, we have a whole lot going on, and we’ve front loaded those costs as much as possible. We’ll have more, of course, in 2025 and that underpins the guidance that the preliminary guidance that we gave you on 2025 today.

Operator: And now we will go to Youssef Squali at Truist Securities.

Youssef Squali: Alright, can you guys hear me?

Oran Holtzman: Yes. How are you, Youssef?

Youssef Squali: Excellent. Thank you, beautiful. Thanks a lot. Sorry about that. No, it happened. So, two questions, maybe can you just unpack a little more the investments that you guys have in store for Brand #3, Brand #4 versus the investment in ODDITY LABS. It seems that you guys are looking at the two somewhat differently. ODDITY LABS is more of a long-term kind of investment with an ROI. That’s still not very clear to us, although it seems to be very clear to you. But number three, investment in Brand #3 and then Brand #4 seem to be kind of more specific. So, anything you can – any kind of clarity you can shed on that would be really helpful. And then maybe as somewhat of a related question, Oran, maybe talk a little bit about the change in leadership at labs, any change in direction, any impacts on, maybe the cadence of output of either products or molecules, however, you want to define it, out of that labs now that you have a new kind of leadership there? Thank you.

Oran Holtzman: Sure. Thank you. So, I will start with the second question. Then I will move to the first one. There is no change, because I am still here, fortunately or unfortunately. And like the piece we are trying to solve here, we are building a platform, and it’s a combination between building something new and grid scaling, because I believe, again, as I mentioned before, that we are in a race and to get it right. I believe that the rest of the industry will go there, and we need to move fast. And this is part of the reasons for the change and I want to hire more. I want to build more. I want to have more oversight. And I have done it before with the tech team, and I want to do the same in science in Boston. And therefore, we are making some changes there in leadership. In terms of direction, same direction, I am very involved, my sister is involved. And now we are going to bring more people that are sharing our philosophy of how to move as faster towards this direction. And I think that Ido is the best candidate for that. I met so many people, and I think that his creativity and his ability to go from zero to one is something that we need there, and it fits perfectly to our view. And so the same, as I have said on the call before and we are building, we are doing both and hiring a lot, at the same time, oversight and structure and protocols to make sure that we are not just spending money to make sure that we are building something that is sustainable for long-term. And to your first question, the difference between building brands and building labs, so building labs is more like building a platform, more like building the technology team in Israel. It takes time. It takes iterations. And we are spending a lot on learning, and it’s a long-term game. By the way, when I say long-term, I am not – I am referring to 10 years from now, and some products I believe that are going to be ready and for Brand 3, Brand 4, and going to be great. But we are building something that its way more power to sell more than just two brands or two products, or five products. We are building a platform there. So, it requires way more in terms of focus and investments. And thank God, I am in a position that, you saw my adjusted EBITDA margin. I don’t want to be in 32% EBITDA margin. I don’t think it’s like what we need as a company and we have – and my commitment is to continue to invest, to build something meaningful while using our strong profitability. The difference between that in Brand 3, Brand 4, Brand 3, Brand 4, we have done before. We built IL MAKIAGE. We built SpoiledChild. We know how to do it. It’s more labor. It’s more planning and strategy and branding and NPD, we have done before. The main difference between Brand 3 and Brand 4, with Brand 3, again, we are building more than just a brand. We are building a tele-health platform. And we start with medical grade skin and body issues like acne, eczema and hyperpigmentation. It’s a huge pain point and impact massive part of our users. And the reason that we do it – that we saw that dissatisfaction with solution is terrible, either in convenient visits to doctor’s office or picking ineffective treatments and drug stores. And that’s a huge opportunity for us developing line of OTC and RX products and discover multiple face and body at the start. Then building first of a kind mobile app is something that we know to do. We have the vision technology as core. We are building it for the past 2 years. And I think that’s going to differentiate us and almost like make a break. And based on the on the numbers that I saw from our model, vision models lately, it’s make the break. And number three, leveraging the platform and the user that we have to serve and to drive revenue very efficiently. And again, we have done it before, so different type of expenses and investments.

Operator: Andrew Boone at JMP Securities. Please go ahead with your question. Your line is open.

Andrew Boone: Thanks so much for taking my question. Oran, you said earlier that media spend had doubled in the first half of this year versus 2 years ago. Revenue is up more than that. Can you just talk about the efficiencies that you guys are being able to generate on media spend and the confidence that continues, what has worked, what hasn’t worked. And were you guys finding pockets of strength? And then Lindsay, as I think about the formulation for revenue growth this quarter, I think you said AOP was up 6%, that kind of implies that orders are right at that 20% level, is that the right framework that we should think about growth going forward. Is that, hey, maybe AOP is mid single digits and order growth is kind of 20% you guys are solving for that 20% or is there any way that we should think about the breakdown of kind of P times Q equals R? Thanks so much.

Oran Holtzman: Hey Andrew. Thanks for the question. Although all the noises of the acquisition environment is still favorable for us, and you can see it like with our strong margins. If I spend more, I wouldn’t print 32% of EBITDA margin and 27% on H1, was did improve versus last year. And we spent in H1 ‘24, almost double amount on media than what we spend in H1 2022, while keeping our overall marketing efficiency well. And this is unusual and shows the efficiency of our platform. And we are bullish about our media efficiency. Q2 ‘24 was our highest scale of Q2 ever. And despite that, we were able to achieve the highest EBITDA margin. And as I mentioned before, but remember that we have very different approach from other companies, which makes it easier for us. We are not acquiring customers, we are acquiring users, and over time, converging them, and it helps us a lot like delivering those results. Lindsay?

Lindsay Drucker Mann: Hey Andrew. It’s Lindsay. So, as far as the revenue composition goes, this quarter, you are right, AOP was up around 6%. Most of our revenue growth was driven by orders. Return rate was a little bit better on a year-over-year basis as well. And we don’t plan our business for AOP versus order, and so it’s not possible for me to give you kind of the equation going forward. We focus really on revenue versus our acquisition dollars. It’s really more of a roll out metric. There are different factors that can affect our AOP and as a result, really not solving for it. So, for example, the types of new products, or the types of products overall, which may have lower price points, but makes sense from a contribution margin perspective. For example, they might have better repeat. Repeat, itself is a lower AOP, and is a lower AOP category for us, so that can be a drag overall. But what we have seen over the last few years is that we are seeing higher AOP in both first order and repeat. And it’s been in a large part of function of people just adding more items to their basket, more items to their order. And we are able to do that, number one, just as our models get better, recommending doing a better job in things like up-sells and bundles. But also because we have a broader product portfolio, now today, there is more things for her to find, and we know how to show them to her and to drive that conversion. So, that’s been a really important driver for us on both first order and repeat. And then of course, the positive mix of skin is also a nice driver, but we are not committed to continuous improvement on AOP as an ongoing driver of revenue, it’s just not how we run the business.

Operator: Thank you. We will hear a question now from Mark Mahaney at Evercore. Your line is open, sir.

Mark Mahaney: Thanks. Two questions, please. You just talked about, what are the biggest governors or factors that will determine the launch times for brands three and four? Is it a product readiness? Is it go-to-market plan readiness, like, what determines for you that it’s why they are launched in the second half of ‘25 versus the first half of ‘25? And in just your current business, could you talk about any regions, geographical regions of strength or weakness, embedded in that question, any signs of consumer discretionary spend softness? Thank you very much.

Oran Holtzman: Sure. So, I will take the first question and Lindsay, you can talk about the second one. Look, in terms of Brand 3 and Brand 4, first of all, of course, the teams are building those brands. It takes time, especially Brand 3, its product development, it’s the app, it’s technology, it’s vision technology. It’s so many things that we need to – like to build in order to be ready. And therefore, we committed to H2, not to H1. That was the plan from the get go. We didn’t change it. And but as I mentioned multiple times, like, even if I had now Brand 3 or 4 ready, I wouldn’t launch it, because I don’t need the growth. We are committed to our model. We want to build the business at the right pace, 20% growth is already like 3x, and then my incumbent. And there is no reason to go faster than that. We want to make sure that our customers are happy, that we are doing things properly. And so now the plan, we will be ready for both brands in H2 next year and we will launch it when we think it’s the right moment.

Lindsay Drucker Mann: Mark, can you repeat that second question?

Operator: With apologies, ma’am, he has been returned to the conference. Mr. Mahaney, would you please re-queue, sir.

Lindsay Drucker Mann: Oran, did you catch it? I didn’t hear it.

Oran Holtzman: Yes, I think he was asking regarding, like weakness in specific geographies or in general, in the U.S., any softness that we see in our platform?

Lindsay Drucker Mann: Sorry, Mark, if you want to queue back and re-ask it, but I will answer that question, so...

Operator: Mr. Mahaney, I apologize, your line is open, sir.

Mark Mahaney: No, Oran, you got my question right? Any regions of strength or weakness to call out and any signs of consumer softness? Thank you.

Lindsay Drucker Mann: We are not seeing it. I know a lot of other, of our competitors in the category, and of course, other pockets of consumers are seeing this kind of weakness, but we simply are not. In fact, we are seeing a lot of broad based strength in both of our brands and different product categories. So, Oran talked about the strength in skin, which again is a higher price point item. But also our color business continues to be very strong for IL MAKIAGE and SpoiledChild is growing very, very well. We also – we have a very broad demographic, so we have an older customer and a younger customer, and we have a suburban customer and a city customer. And we are really geographically across the U.S. very, very well represented. I think we are the wrong place to hunt, candidly, just because we are so small in a very, very large market. And we are an idiosyncratic growth story, as we are gaining a whole lot of market share, because we are operating in a wide open channel, which is we think the most important channel for the consumer for the future. So, no, we haven’t seen any evidence, any indication of it at this at this time.

Operator: And that was the final question from our audience today, Mr. Holtzman, I am happy to turn it back to you, sir, for any additional or closing remarks.

Oran Holtzman: No. Thank you very much guys for joining us. See you next quarter. Have a good day.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today’s teleconference, and we thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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